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I'm removing this, because I have no idea what it is doing in this article (it seems particularly inappropriate to an article about works of fiction). RandomCritic 16:47, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Merger

As far as I can tell, "merger" will essentially take the form of deleting the entire section from the Asteroid article; there's nothing there that isn't already here. Which does not, of course, mean that it's a bad idea. RandomCritic 19:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Can anyone hunt this one down?

I remember an old Outer Limits-like episode (B&W, ca. 1960s or early 1970s) taking place on an asteroid, where the plot is about the search for a fossil (Archaeopteryx-like) that an astronaut had glimpsed. He fails to find it (his air running out, or some such) by a hair's breadth (it was litterally behind the last rock he turned back at). Ring any bells? Urhixidur (talk) 05:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Earth-to-rubble energy computation

A simple estimation, assuming uniform density, goes as follows. The energy required to pull the Earth apart is equivalent to that released during its formation (one process being just the time-reverse of the other). Midway through the process, we have a central sphere of radius r, density ρ, upon which accretes a shell of thickness dr (same density). The energy involved is just the gravitational potential energy, GMm/r. The central mass M is (4/3)πr³ρ, the shell mass m is 4πr²drρ. Thus the total energy is:

Plugging in the numbers for G (6.67242×10−11 m³/kg s²), R (6.371×106 m), and ρ (5.515×103 kg/m³) we get 2.24×1032 J. Dividing by the Sun's luminosity of 3.85×1026 W yields 5.83×105 s = 6.75 d. The equation can be rewritten as 3GM²/5R, if you wish to apply it to other bodies such as Venus, Mars, Jupiter, etc. Urhixidur (talk) 19:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Gundam Entry

Sorry for not noticing the paragraph down there before adding stuff. The problem here is, Juno(renamed Luna II in the series) is a real asteroid, while the others have no real world reference. Would it be better to have it seperated from the virtual ones and listed under Juno, or would it be better to tag everything down in the virtual section? Seems like the virtual section is a bit to long for now(most information could be found on the page I linked to on Luna II anyway), we can trim it down and just mention the names and location instead of having the lengthy plot here. MythSearchertalk 07:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps a Gundam Wing reference can be added under Mineral Extraction. There were various asteroids designated MO#. With MO III being destroyed in Endless Waltz; It was a mobile suit factory/base. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.230.161 (talk) 19:04, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Navigational hazard examples

I was surprised to see that the navigational hazard section has no actual examples of asteroids as a navigational hazard in science fiction.

Can I suggest: a good example to start it off might be Asimov's 1938 story Marooned off Vesta - his first published story. It opens with a spacecraft that got damaged seriously as a result of the captain's decision to take the more hazardous flight through the asteroid belt rather than flying over it :). Robert Walker (talk) 15:32, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

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Fiction Negativity

No more berating fiction jokes please!  This article could do without the whole, "unlikely in the next millennium" attack on the credibility of the fiction.  Much of fiction invents new historical events, one.  Two there are interstellar asteroids which would kill badly and are not easily spotted even.  And three this used to be considered a real threat and still is by scientists for a very long, long, long time.  This wasn't just fiction being stupid! 64.109.54.132 (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

poor

This article is disjointed to the point of being almost incoherent and is certainly useless. Citing few early works, one of which may have the wrong author. Does it mean to refer to Crack of Dawn by William Minto rather than Robert Crombie? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.121.126.67 (talk) 19:22, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Deleting the examples has broken references elsewhere

I came to this article from the "In fiction" section of 324 Bamberga. Now there's no longer any mention of that asteroid here. Presumably the same is true for many of the other former examples. Just deleting the examples without modifying the articles that referenced them is sloppy to the point of vandalism. 2601:C6:4100:F980:3934:6750:E4CE:7832 (talk) 15:57, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Using the "What links here" link in the sidebar (which leads to Special:WhatLinksHere/Asteroids in fiction) allows you to see which articles link here. When you notice something like this, you could always fix it yourself. I have now done so for you. I would argue that adding unsourced WP:Original research to Wikipedia in the first place is way more disruptive than cleaning up an article without adjusting all incoming links from other articles. We certainly wouldn't want to discourage people from improving articles by imposing additional workloads to other articles, now would we? TompaDompa (talk) 17:42, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

The redirect 1 Ceres in fiction has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 21 § 1 Ceres in fiction until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 20:36, 21 February 2024 (UTC)