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Schedule

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The final is on the 19th or on the 20th?SoSivr (talk) 16:05, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - source says 20th, good spot. Nikthestunned 09:08, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

'Did not advance' vs. blank space

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In response to a recent conflict in opinions on the formatting of this page, I think a discussion on the topic is needed. The conflict arose over how the table of results should be formatted once a competitor has had three failures in the competition. The other editor feels as if the subsequent boxes be left blank, something which I feel leaves the table looking unfinished. I, on the other hand feel as if the remaining spaces should be filled with 'Did not advance'. The other editor claims that advancing can only be used when talking about one stage of a competition to the next. But, from other Olympic articles such as the hammer and discus, the terminology is clearly used when talking about a particular stage (e.g. final). Once again the whole problem of 'new formatting cannot be right', is getting in the way of making the article understandable to readers not experts in the subject.

All opinions welcome.

F1lover22 talk 02:07, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide a reliable source where the terminology "Did not advance" is used in official results of a Pole Vault competition held under IAAF or IOC requlations. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 02:10, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As has been mentioned previously, the formatting of IOC results has little bearing on the Wikipedia editing. Men's Hammer Throw Results does not use the terminology either, yet it is used correctly, on the Wikipedia entry for the same event. To emphasise again, three failures = not advancing to the next height
F1lover22 talk 02:18, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviations

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Someone want to let the readers in on what all the abbreviations and symbols in this article mean? Q, q, x, o, –, NM, DNS? - dcljr (talk) 02:07, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hope the key has helped clear it up
F1lover22 talk 02:39, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Key

  • o = Height cleared
  • x = Height failed
  • = Height passed
  • r  = Retired
  • SB = Season's best
  • PB = Personal best
  • NR = National record
  • AR = Area record
  • OR = Olympic record
  • WR = World record
  • WL = World lead
  • NM = No mark
  • DNS = Did not start
  • DQ = Disqualified


I see this was added to two articles. There are many others that could use it, as well. Would this same template also work for the various high-jump articles (if so, perhaps a rename might be in order)? - dcljr (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It probably could be used for high jump as well. It would take a while to add to all Olympic articles. What would you suggest as a new name?
F1lover22 talk 14:12, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure. Best solution is probably to redirect {{Olympic high jump key}} to {{Olympic pole vault key}} and use the two names separately. That way, if it is determined that a different template (for high jump) is needed later, the individual articles won't have to be changed. - dcljr (talk) 15:56, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like that is the best solution. The template would only need some slightly tweaking to be applied to other competitions such as the World Championships as well
F1lover22 talk 16:21, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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