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Move: Those are good points, and I think that both options you suggested would be good. The former I think describes the situation more overall later on, while the latter might be more fitting for now until news reports of clear oil spill with a prominent slick appear, so I can move it to that one for now. One other possible title later on could be something like MT Delta Sounion oil spill akin to the title of the Exxon Valdez oil spill. Thank you, I appreciate your feedback and points of consideration! Noble Attempt (talk) 04:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move: This article is about an attack on a ship at sea. Since applying the naming convention for events gives ambiguous results, the article should not be named after the place where it happened but about the ship itself. The ship's name, which is apparently MT Delta Sounion, and is currently a redirect, is probably the best title. This means the attack on the ship and the subsequent oil spill can all be covered in the same article along with the rest of the ship's history. This avoids having too many content forks, as all the information is in one article. Also, articles about ships that result in them sinking have been described as "Sinking of the <ship>". e.g. Sinking of the Titanic, Sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald, Sinking of the Rainbow Warrior, Sinking of the RMS Lusitania, etc. If this ship sinks, that gives a second naming option, other possible titles, such as "Attack on ... " or "Destruction of ... " may be apparent from sources. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 19:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It appears the shipping line is called Delta tankers and a number of other ships of the line have the prefix "Delta ...", but this ship is only called "Sounion". The "MT" designates the type of ship, in this case an oil tanker. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 13:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support moving to Attacks on the MT Delta Sounion. The battle between the tankers armed guards and the Houthi fast attack craft is in itself notable, and there are other details that should be added to the article like the subsequent engagement when the French frigate rendering assistance attacked and destroyed an approaching Houthi explosive boat.XavierGreen (talk) 03:07, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment - there's a clear consensus to move, but it would be good to get some more definitive agreement on what exactly to move to. — Amakuru (talk) 14:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Attacks on the Sounion. Consistent with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (events)#Maritime, which does not seem to include the ship's classification abbreviation before the name. Delta does not seem to be part of the name. Per WP:NOYEAR, the event is unlikely to recur in a future year that would give rise to a separate article, so the year should be omitted. I think pluralizing attacks is probably best given the gap between the 21 and 23 August occurrences. --Bsherr (talk) 12:29, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
move There is not oil spill and may never be one, firstly. Secondly, as mentioned variously above, attack on the ship would make more sense. 1 of 3 biggest attacks by yemen in the last 9 or so month is highly notable.Sportsnut24 (talk) 18:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Shouldn't this article list general information on the ship like the Tutor and Rubymar articles do?
How can there even be a section on somethiing that has neither happened nor may not. Maybe an analysis section after the reactions on concerns thereof.Sportsnut24 (talk) 18:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]