Talk:Babar Ahmed (director)

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The "Professional career" section does not seem neutral to me, and it is poorly cited. Thoughts? Fnordware (talk) 18:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The "Professional career" section is indeed neutral. And does have citations: http://www.seniorsworldchronicle.com/2011/06/usa-babar-ahmed-on-challenges-of-global.html http://wbi.worldbank.org/wbi/news/2010/08/10/video-highlights-innovative-cities-global-dialogue — Preceding unsigned comment added by Computer998877 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, you mean the citations you just added without any understanding of Wikipedia markup usage? Added by a user with no previous contributions? Please forgive me for being suspect of your neutrality in this matter. The world bank citation can be a reliable source, but there is still plenty of pairing down to do for the rest of the un-cited material. Thank you for drawing my attention back to this article. Fnordware (talk) 04:09, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The "Professional career" section is not neutral. It is written in a way that the Wikipedia editor posting it is the reporter. For example, the article sentence "He has been covered on major TV stations such as BBC World TV, NBC 4, and CH 9 WUSA." conveys information that probably is true. However, how did the Wikipedia editor posting that sentence know this information? Is that sentence a summary of information written in a Wikipedia reliable source? No. The Wikipedia editor saw or read about BBC World TV, NBC 4, and CH 9 WUSA covering Babar Ahmed. In this case, the Wikipedia editor posted a synthesis of published material where the Wikipedia reliable source themselves did not directly advance the position that "He has been covered on major TV stations such as BBC World TV, NBC 4, and CH 9 WUSA." Since the source for the information in the Wikipedia article is the Wikipedia editor, the "Professional career" section is not neutral. Don't try to interpret one or several Wikipedia reliable sources. Instead, find reliable sources about the topic and post a representative survey of that relevant literature. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:38, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This article caught my eye again. Still no sources, even though the templates were removed. In fact, I'd say notability is questionable as well. I'm on the verge or deleting the whole "Professional career" section, but figured I'd post here first. Fnordware (talk) 20:50, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Joey99008892, I see that you have added some links to the "Professional career" section, but most of those references are not actually reliable sources. For example, IMDB and Amazon are not reliable sources. The YouTube videos you link to are the primary sources; you need some secondary sources. The links to reviews are OK, although they are not formatted properly within the article. If you like, I can re-write this section using whatever sources exist. Fnordware (talk) 19:10, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You refuse to discuss, so I guess I'll have to get the article semi-protected. Fnordware (talk) 18:52, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Babar Ahmed (director)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

=Stub Class Biography= I rated this article a 'stub-class' because it provides very little relevant information and would need a great deal of work to become an 'a-level' article. Gillian416 22:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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