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Koreanic Japonic[edit]

Old-Baekje was Japonic speaking, that is the mainstream view of most linguists and historians. Later it got koreanized. See source:". While the historical expansion of Koreanic on the Korean Peninsula was connected with the rise of the Silla state (from the southeast), there are strong indications that the neighbouring Baekje state (in the southwest) was predominantly Japonic-speaking until it was linguistically Koreanized."^[1]--212.95.8.191 (talk) 21:09, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The hypothesis you provided does not deal with Han-Baekje or even the language of the commoners in Baekje. The theory does not mention the term Han-Baekje or your suspicious term “Old Baekje” at all. The author of your source is an opponent of the presence of the bilingual system in Baekje. And the hypothesis you provided show no toponymic evidence supporting you claim at all. Therefore your conjecture cannot be justified on the basis of the source you cited at this page. By the way, the view of the author you provided deviates significantly from theories of the well-established mainstream linguistic theories of the Baekje language. Thus, such an original view point like yours or extremely small minority view, contrary to the mainstream linguistic theories should not be represented in Wikipedia. The Nihon Shoki also indicates that the language of commoners of Baekje differed greatly from the Old Japanese.

The Han languages or Samhan languages was a branch of the ancient Koreanic languages, referring to the non-Buyeo Koreanic languages, once spoken in the southern Korean Peninsula, which was closely related to the Buyeo languages. The Han languages were spoken in the Mahan, Byeonhan and Jinhan. The extent of Han languages is unclear. It is generally accepted as including Sillan, and may also have included Baekje language.

One of the most prominent leader of the Koreanic Han(韓) immigration was King Jun of Gojoseon from the northern Korea, having lost the throne to Wiman, fled to the state of Jin in southern Korea around 194 - 180 BC. He and his followers established Mahan which was one of the Samhan ("Three Hans"), along with Byeonhan and Jinhan. Further Han(韓) migration followed the fall of Gojoseon and establishment of the Chinese commanderies in 108 BC. The second wave of the Koreanic Buyeo immigrations came from Goguryeo. One of the notable leaders of the Koreanic Buyeo migration was Onjo of Baekje.

Conprix (talk) 23:22, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://journal.fi/store/article/view/52395/16245

Queen[edit]

I'll reconstruct the word Queen.

Nihon Shoki says it's oruku.

Book of Zhou says it's ʔyo-ljuwk.

That means the word queen is something like ʔoluk. I am a Green Bee (talk) 14:48, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://journal.fi/store/article/view/52395/16245

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