Talk:Balkan sworn virgins

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I think this title doesn't conform to usual Wikipedia standards. It shouldn't be pluralized, right? 69.134.78.73 (talk) 22:49, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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A merge into the Sworn virgin article. It seems like the custom has been spread in Albania and Montenegro and it's dying out. Since I don't see future expansion of this, a merge actually makes sense. Or does it not? Yllke shembullore (talk) 16:42, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. There are other reasons people become sworn virgins or sworn celibates. I expected Sworn virgin to either be a disambiguation list or discuss the concept in general with a section summarizing and pointing to the Albanian (should that be Balkan, if it's not just in Albania?) sworn virgins article.

Also, please see the next section for another problem. Thanks! — Geekdiva (talk) 07:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Since this is specific to Albanian culture it should be referred to as Albanian and not Balkan

I am sorry but is not specific to only Albanian culture. It was also spread on southern parts of Yugoslavia (especially Montenegro). We called them "virdžine" (Serbo-Croatian way of pronouncing the word "virgins"). The proper name of this article should be Balkan sworn virgins. There are many movies and documentaries in ex-Yugoslavia about them. --Skinjara (talk) 14:50, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the article should be titled Balkan Sworn Virgins due not only to the existence of sworn virgins outside of Albania, but because the tradition has existed throughout periods where Albania was not a nation. This is fairly clearly a supranational tradition so using Balkan which is a supranational term would make more sense. 2001:56A:F71E:C00:B592:E88:416D:C85E (talk) 21:15, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Balkan languages for sworn virgins that might not be on Wiktionary, & a possible error[edit]

This article's introduction lists a lot of terms in a variety of Balkan languages that might not be on Wiktionary yet, if someone wants to double-check over there and add them in.

I also don't know what "Stahl, Turk Moslem" means. Is sadik the Turkish translation? There's no reference written by a Stahl, so is that another Turkish word or just an error?

Sorry all I can do is point this out, but my real-life limitations are getting in the way of doing this myself. Thanks in advance if you can work on this, here and/or Wiktionary! — Geekdiva (talk) 07:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Geekdiva: Paul H. Stahl is a source mentioned in the Antonia Young reference (p. 63) and sadik would seem to be the Turkish (moslem) translation. I changed this article but couldn't find a related Wiktionary page. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 11:35, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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French page[edit]

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vierges_sous_serment --Japarthur (talk) 09:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can we please do better when discussing gender?[edit]

This is an article about a distinct gender identity in the Balkans; could we please not deadname the late anthropologist Dr. Jeffrey Dickemann? He had gender-affirming surgery in 1996, the book being cited is from 1997; there's no excuse for using his dead name here. To anyone reading this, please remember to take your time when editing so as to avoid mistakes like this. While seemingly small, these mistakes can mean a lot to trans or gender non-conforming people; especially on articles such as this.LemuroideaFan (talk) 22:36, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Misgendering?[edit]

This article repeatedly refers to these people as 'women' and uses female pronouns. I feel this is insensitive to the culture and inaccurate considering these people were effectively men. Moling Luachra (talk) 10:13, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]