Talk:Balthazar

Balthazar Gerard

What about Balthazar Gerard, the assasin of William the Silent? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.23.162.142 (talk) 19:38, 9 June 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Balthazar king of Babylon?

Responsible for casting Daniel into the Lions Den, where he was for 6-days; Balthazar, was also the name for the King of Babylon. - The book of Daniel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.209.254.2 (talk • contribs) 22:19, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with this. Belshazzar profaned the Temple pieces and is a bad guy. Beltesshazzar is the name given to Daniel, a good guy/prophet. I don't think a bad guy name would be used through history and corrupted to Balthazar, a good guy name would. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.0.27.6 (talk) 18:26, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology

What is the etymology of this name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.30.150.41 (talk) 09:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What Tradition?

In saying "Balthazar is a traditional name..." this article implies that name was not given to him in any of the books of the new testament, but became associated in later tradition. If so it should state this outright. Also it should be more specific about this tradition, for example where do we first see this name being used for him?

The idea of him being darkly complected or African, is also, I would assume, a part of later Christian tradition, but again this should be stated more clearly ("It is widely agreed" is classic weasel wording) and specific references ought to be mentioned. For example, does he start showing up with dark skin in medieval paintings? Or was it more recent phenomena?--Ericjs (talk) 19:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I find that the wikipedia already has an entry on the 3 Magi which treats these matters rather more carefully. I will edit the page to link to this entry, and use some of the information there to update the wording here.--Ericjs (talk) 02:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the revision, and removed reference to his African origin / skin color, as this doesn't seem to be relevant to this page which is specifically about the name, and the Bibilical_Magi page treats that in detail.--Ericjs (talk) 02:31, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Focus of this page, the name or the Magi?

The bigger question is what should the main focus of this page be? It seems to be the name Balthazar for one of the Magi, and only secondarily mentions it as the name of the 6th century king of Babylon, followed by list of other usages of this name.

Why is the name as one of the Magi the primary focus of this page? If this page is about the name in general, why is this not simply in the list with the others? Or alternately, should there be separate pages for Balthazar the Magi, Balthazar the Babylonian king, etc with a disambiguation page?

I'd like to note that in Mirrian-Webster unabridged, under Balthazar it mentions the Babylonian king only, which leads me to think this more than the Magi usage should be listed as the primary meaning (if there should be one).--Ericjs (talk) 02:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jose Saramago's Novel

Surely Jose Saramago's novel Baltasar and Blimunda should be mentioned on this page, in the literature section and/or the fictional character section. Thanks 85.64.219.179 (talk) 19:34, 27 July 2011 (UTC) You could mention the spanish prince Balthasar Charles.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.150.58.167 (talk) 20:23, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Archangel

Balthazar is an arch angel that fought in war in heaven and faked his death. HE stole magical artifacts and brought them to earth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.59.186.148 (talk) 02:19, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Balthazar a new species of giant salamander

What is your opinion about these fabulos creatures? Rhubarboy17 (talk) 22:17, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Given names

Most people with the given name are relegated to the Balthazar (given name) article, but some are given special treatment by being listed here. Is there a rhyme or reason for which ones are listed directly on this disambiguation page? For example, why are these people listed here?:

Batata (footballer) (Baltazar Costa Rodrigues de Oliveira, born 2000), Brazilian footballer [not in the given name article]
Balthazar (magus), a name commonly attributed to one of Three Wise Men [listed in both places]
Balthasar of Werle (c. 1375–1421), Lord of Werle-Güstrow [not in the given name article]
Balthasar, Duke of Mecklenburg (1451–1507) [not in the given name article]
Balthasar of Żagań (c. 1415–1472), a Duke of Żagań-Przewóz [not in the given name article]

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