Talk:Bam Bam Bigelow

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U-Japan

I can not find any information to lead me to believe that U-Japan was a UFC event. The card did include a variety of former UFC fighters, but I suspect was not promoted by UFC or any companies related to UFC. UFC Japan 1 was in 1997, while the U-Japan event happened in 1996. Chadq 17:37, 8 August 2006

Fire story false

Bigelow himself stated several years ago that the story of him rescuing children from a fire was false, and was the invention of WCW to explain his time away.

Link please Jcdizon 04:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If it was false, then why was it reported in the Asbury Park Press at the time that it happened?--Hndsmepete 04:28, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Source please that the fire story was false.Neoyamaneko 05:28, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Newspapers.com has the Asbury Park Press, and I can't find anything about it. What year did this take place?Richjenkins 23:52, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Scott fought in a Japanese promotion called U-Japan and lost via submission.

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?search=yes&EventID=388

Reports of Bam Bam's death

It's been reported that Bigelow was found dead today.

I'm not going to update the page myself (due to a LOT of comflicting information coming in), but expect legitimate editing shortly. 24.187.134.57 20:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Greeting from Asbury park, goodbye from me :-) We loved you big man

Alleged Drug Addictions

Any addictions he may have had should only be listed if there is a reputable source. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 22:43, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Supposed overdose

No cause of death was given, nor will one be determineed soon. Until then he did not "die of a drug overdose". There's nop reason to put a cause of death in the article till one is confirmed.

As someone who knew Scott as a regular customer at my job, I'm asking that the above statement be respected. John 09:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He is dead

Yes, he was found dead today in hes house. www.wwe.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.88.95.34 (talk) 10:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

MMA Career

There should be a mention about his MMA fights

Did he have more than one? Random name 14:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Charles or Bigelow

The main page refers to him as Scott Charles Bigelow, but I've heard radio programs and websites call him Scott Charles. Neoyamaneko 05:28, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is a convention in some areas to refer to someone by their first and middle names when the last isn't necessary. It is used in the situations where we would simply call someone by their first name. Peace, -- The Hyb rid 05:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Entrance theme

What is the entrance theme of Bam Bam Bigelow?

--189.216.60.203 (talk) 22:32, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Fear the Reaper ha ha ha 74.62.14.26 (talk) 05:35, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pay

Wrestlers are known to lie. I'm not saying he didn't make more than $700k in a given year, but if he did, he only made that money when he was under contract with WCW. At no point in his career could he have made that kind of money elsewhere - certainly not during WWF dark ages or even when he was pushed for six months during the Golden Era. I just think we should have a source that's better than Bigelow's own word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.72.216.198 (talk) 15:03, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Bam Bam Bigelow/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 10:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
It contains copyright infringements -
It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

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Prose

Lede

Are the refs in the lead all that important (something we can't cite in the body instead?) Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I've removed a few of the references, I think a couple need to remain to establish Bigelow's notability. McPhail (talk) 11:56, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Bigelow was hailed by former employer WWE - you can't be hailed by an organisation. Someone would have said this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, the quote is now attributed. McPhail (talk) 11:56, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Infobox is cited quite a lot, most of it is already in the body so can be removed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, I've removed everything that is cited elsewhere in the article. McPhail (talk) 11:56, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
with promotions New Japan Pro-Wrestling - to avoid WP:SEAOFBLUE, "promotions" can be removed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done McPhail (talk) 11:56, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There's some issues with initials in the lede. You mention some like New Japan Pro-Wrestling (NJPW), but then never use NJPW in the lede at all. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, initials have been removed where they do not reappear. McPhail (talk) 11:56, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General

Factory school - just change to "Factory wrestling school" and ditch the link Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sharpe's prize student.[15][10][21][22][23] - WP:CITEKILL, get rid of two of the cites, or bundle them.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, I've rearranged the cites to reflect the information they relate to. McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've done some para break fixes, they were a bit silly in differing sizes. I've done as far as The Million Dollar Corporation, could you look through the rest? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, most of the short paragraphs are merged. McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There's quite a number of Overlinking. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, I've taken out some of the links to more generic items. McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
[9][38][40][41] - citekill again.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I feel like two sections for 1991 and 1992 is overkill. Could just have one for independents. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is a bit of an issue with proseline here. Most sentences start "in mid-X", or "In Early-Y", could we have some variety? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wrestle Association R could just be a part of the independent curcuit section Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
[98][108][109][113][114] - citekill. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This marked Bigelow's final appearance with ECW as he left the promotion to rejoin World Championship Wrestling immediately thereafter. - needs a cite. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
signed a "lucrative" ^{[according to whom?]}. 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Done, an author is added. McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
suffered an upset loss to the diminutive - we should avoid such language as "upset", unless we define who says it. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"uncanny nimbleness" - things like this need to be attributed. Happens a lot in the article Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, I have added attribution for quotes. McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
.[10][2][15][44][147][148] - more citekill. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Deceptively agile, Bigelow also used aerial maneuvers such as a moonsault[81][39] and a diving headbutt[3][149] as finishing moves. - should really cite at the end to say these are finishing moves, to avoid WP:SYNTH. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, I've remvoed the reference to finishing moves which is less important. McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mixed martial arts career - is there no other info about him getting involved in MMA? I feel with one match, that should be a subsection of personal life. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I haven't done this just now - I feel his appearance in MMA stands out enough to warrant his own section. McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source for Filmography? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, citation added. McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Personal life needs a cleanup to be much more readable Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I've made some tweaks here, hopefully it is more readable now. McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Bigelow's girlfriend Janis Remiesiewicz - do we need to namecheck them? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, I have amended to only refer to Bigelow's girlfriend. McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A couple of the acomplishments are uncited Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, these have been removed. McPhail (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Review meta comments

I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi McPhail, any news on this? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - McPhail, I'll give you a couple more days, before I close this one up.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:19, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - Lee Vilenski - thanks for doing this and sorry for my slowness in responding. I've now gone through the list of notes and made some changes to the article to try and address these. Thanks. McPhail (talk) 12:08, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to promote. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:24, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]