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Ethnic composition[edit]

The ethnic composition figures seem odd and are not actually supported by the offered reference available through Google Books (Brett Paulston & Peckham). Consistency of the figures claimed there and those attributed to Njegovan make the Njegovan reference dubious too.

BP&P on relevant page 76 explicitly states the percentages reported in the article but also explicitly states those apply to the area corresponding to 1948 definition of Vojvodina - i.e. excluding Baranja and 1948 Romanian part of Banat. The population size would not make sense either, because Banat article indicates that it would alone have about the same size of population (560 thousand in Serbian Banat and 820 thousand in Romanian Banat = about 1.38 M total) as reported for Banat, Bačka and Baranja which is clearly impossible: Demographic history of Bačka indicates additional 735 thousand living in the region and Pécs in Baranya alone had about 60 thousand inhabitants. Given the information in the BP&P source it is only logical to conclude that the percentages and the population size apply to a differently defined territory - likely corresponding to 1948 Vojvodina.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:14, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: Granted, the passage says "within the borders defined by the peace conference" but it is nowhere explained what that means or when this happened - before or after the assembly voted on unification etc. Reading as-is, I'd say it's quite confusing what is actually encompassed by the figure. Of course if the relevant text refers to Kingdom of SHS part of Banat, Bačka and Baranja only, it would still be off in relation to the territory indicated by the BP&P reference. The KSHS part of Baranja, Bačka and Banat differs from 1948 Vojvodina in terms of territorial extent - because the latter does not include Baranja and possibly a bit of Banat opposite Belgrade, but includes eastern Syrmia.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:58, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]