Talk:Banburismus

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Oscar Wilde's "Bunburyism"[edit]

Not sure if anyone has watchlisted this page, but I've always thought banburismus was somehow named related to "Bunburyist" in Oscar Wilde's The Importance of Being Earnest. The text of the play doesn't have the word "bunburyism," but it's an easy back-formation from "bunburyist," and readily becomes Bunburismus in mock-German. The change from "Bunbury" to "Banbury" is also quite trivial because the place-name is pronounced /bənbriː/. (In German the play is sometimes Bunbury.)

In the play, "Bunburyism" is an invention of Algernon, a London gentleman who maintains a non-existent but convenient "invalid" called Bunbury, whose ill health frequently "requires" Algernon to take visits to the country (whenever and wherever he pleases). His friend Jack, a country gentleman, has invented a younger brother in London, Earnest, permitting him to visit London whenever he pleases. How this ties into the cryptographic Banburismus isn't at all clear to me. Perhaps it was simply a way for Turing to pursue whatever he found most intellectually interesting when the work at Bletchley Park became too routine. The "cards printed at Banbury" idea seems contrived, especially since it seems nobody has ever seen one.

Of course adding this to the article would require a good source and an explanation of how Bunburying relates to Banburismus. But I think it's intriguing. I hope this doesn't break WP:NOTFORUM because the article, at present, attributes the name to the place the cards were printed. I think this may not be the whole story. Roches (talk) 13:01, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Errors in the example?[edit]

I see multiple real and potential issues with the example in this article. However I'm nowhere near confident enough to edit the article.

  • In the beginning of the example, it should be clarified that we are dealing with a pair of messages with encrypted indicators "VFG" and "VFX".
  • In the beginning of the "Scritchmus" section, it fails to clarify that the pair "X = G+8" from the prev section is still in play, i.e. there are four message-pairs making up the chain. (It is confirmed in later text that this is indeed the case.) Without it, there is no relation between letter groups BG and HQX.
  • In the displayed chain "G--B-H---X-Q" we actually have "X = G+9". Off by one.
  • When it comes to matching the chain against a rotor wheel: I do not see why each individual wheel needs to be "reciprocal" and "non-self-encoding". The Enigma as a whole gets these properties due to the Reflector, regardless of what substitution each rotor is contributing, I would think. So I challenge if the method is correctly described.
  • Also, in case I'm right on the previous point, then one also needs to differentiate between encoding (or "encoding forwards") and decoding (or "encoding backwards") as the wheels aren't necessarily reciprocal. For example, (in the forward direction) something encodes to G but G might in turn encode to something else.

(Anders Hallström) 165.1.243.180 (talk) 20:03, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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