Talk:Barge of the Dead/GA1

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Reviewer: 1989 (talk · contribs) 08:08, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
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1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
  • "After witnessing several Klingon warriors kill the crew," Do you mean killing?
  • "reasoning that she must return to the Barge of the Dead to rescue her." Reasoning might not be the right word for the context of the sentence.
  • "While arguing with Miral," Why did they argue? Did they not want the procedure to happen?
  • "...understand what it truly means to be a Klingon. Torres takes her mother's place..." So did Miral accept the procedure?
  • "The concept for the episode developed from Moore's failed pitch for the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode" Do you mean Star Trek: Deep Space Nine per ref 4?
  • "compared to the previous episode "Survival Instinct"", which"
  • "toward Torres, writing that" I don't think the word that is needed if your using a quote after.
  • I believe all of these comments have been addressed. Aoba47 (talk) 13:51, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
2c. it contains no original research.
  • I couldn't find anything about Fuller's resignation on ref 6.
  • Changed; I must have accidentally added in that source somehow so thank you for calling that to my attention. Aoba47 (talk) 13:51, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • ""Barge of the Dead" was the first episode [...] real or part of a hallucination." Is that whole part in P4 of the Production section supported by ref 14?
  • It is all supported through the reference. Aoba47 (talk) 13:51, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment. Good work on the article. When you resolve my concerns, I will look it over.
  • @1989: Thank you for reviewing the article. I believe that I have addressed everything. Have a wonderful rest of your day. Aoba47 (talk) 13:51, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Aoba47: Bullets 3 and 4 on 1a are not addressed yet. -- 1989 14:04, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • @1989: Thank you for pointing it out, and I apologize for missing those two points. I corrected Bullet 3, but I am not sure what you mean by Bullet 4. In the episode, Torres has a near-death experience and is taken to the Klingon version of Hell, where she sees her mother (Miral). Torres is revived, but wants to do a procedure to put her into a coma to mimic a near-death state to return to Hell to save her mother (Miral). Miral is completely separate from the procedure so I am not fully understanding the point about accepting the procedure. Some clarification would be helpful to better understand how to correct this. Aoba47 (talk) 15:48, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Aoba47: Was Torres taking over her mother's place in response to Miral's opinion? -- 1989 16:18, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
          • @1989: Again, I am not certain about you mean by "opinion" in this context? Torres went down to the underworld to save her mother and take her place after seeing her there, not because the mother asked her to do so. Again, the procedure part of it takes place in a completely separate location from the hell/underworld portions of the episode so Miral has not connection to that part. Aoba47 (talk) 16:23, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
            • @Aoba47: So if Miral is the mother, and she does not believe her daughter is fully connected to her roots, she let's her take over anyway? If so, please note that in the article. -- 1989 16:42, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
              • @1989: Oh, I see your point now. Miral actually resists and objects to her daughter taking her place, with the swap taking place without Miral's consent. Aoba47 (talk) 17:09, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
                • @Aoba47: I would note that in the article. -- 1989 17:12, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
                  • @1989: I added a note about it in the Plot section. Aoba47 (talk) 17:16, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for making corrections to the article. I can now pass the article. -- 1989 17:24, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]