Talk:Barred grass snake

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Poor description

The desciption of this species is borderline rubbish... In the UK, this species is typically olive-green and does have the two yellow neck marks approaching a collar—GRM (talk) 20:28, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a bright yellow collar is characteristic in Great Britain.S C Cheese (talk) 22:51, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Distribution

According to the upfront map in the primary reference,^[1] this species also occurs in the Netherlands—GRM (talk) 21:04, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Consequences of reclassification

(talk) 23:47, 13 August 2020 (UTC)I've been trying to sort existing paragraphs on N natrix and N helveticaS C Cheese (talk) 23:48, 13 August 2020 (UTC) onto the appropriate page.[reply]

I did some editing and added the UK references re no cobra-mimicry in Britain

Note that the photo is from Czech Republic and shows no bars, so is almost certainly Natrix natrix – let me find one from Britain, France, Germany or Italy to replace it with (I wish I had one myself, but I've never managed to photograph this species) —GRM (talk) 16:16, 8 September 2020 (UTC) — Done—GRM (talk) 13:08, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Which (new) species described the cobra-like behaviour?

It isn't clear from the single report whether the individual was what is now called N natrix or N helvetica.S C Cheese (talk) 22:09, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

N. helvetica sicula

I found this, and thought it might interest editors here.^[2] Nick Moyes (talk) 19:21, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The former is dealt with in the text but seems to make no mention of N.h. sicula; the latter may require someone writing up more detail on the distribution of subspecies?—GRM (talk) 10:12, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Kindler, Carolin; Chèvre, Maxime; Ursenbacher, Sylvain; Böhme, Wolfgang; Hille, Axel; Jablonski, Daniel; Vamberger, Melita; Fritz, Uwe (2017), "Hybridization patterns in two contact zones of grass snakes reveal a new Central European snake species", Scientific Reports, 7 (7378), doi:10.1038/s41598-017-07847-9, PMC 5547120
^ Senckenberg Research Institute and Natural History Museum (21 April 2021). "A snake crosses the Alps: The Italian barred grass snake spreads to Bavaria". phys.org. Retrieved 6 May 2021.

Nestling birds as prey

This is amply demonstrated with video evidence on UK's ''Springwatch'' series, 2024, episode 8. Happy to add citation if deemed necessary, but I will need to look up some "cite video/tv programme" template. Do we think I need to do this?—GRM (talk) 10:07, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done: actually referenced in Beebee—GRM (talk) 11:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[KindChevUrseBohm17-1] Kindler, Carolin; Chèvre, Maxime; Ursenbacher, Sylvain; Böhme, Wolfgang; Hille, Axel; Jablonski, Daniel; Vamberger, Melita; Fritz, Uwe (2017), "Hybridization patterns in two contact zones of grass snakes reveal a new Central European snake species", Scientific Reports, 7 (7378), doi:10.1038/s41598-017-07847-9, PMC 5547120

[2] Senckenberg Research Institute and Natural History Museum (21 April 2021). "A snake crosses the Alps: The Italian barred grass snake spreads to Bavaria". phys.org. Retrieved 6 May 2021.

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