Talk:Basehead/GA1

GA Review

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1. Well-written:

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   • Spelling: "Regardling" should be "Regarding"? Done
   • Jargon: "Ivey recorded much of the album at his home on a four-track with various friends." What is "four-track"? Can it be explained or a link added to an appropriate article? Is it related to Multitrack recording? Done
   • Jargon: "Basehead released its fourth studio album, In The Name of Jesus on Union of Vineyard Workers." What is "Union of Vineyard Workers"? It is listed in the infobox as a label but not explained in the text. Done
   • Punctuation: "Faith was not released until two years later.[6]." two full-stops; I suggest keeping the one before the citation. Done
   • Punctuation: In the "Band members" section a different style of hyphen is used for Brian Hendrix. I am not sure whether a short or long hyphen is appropriate but the same form should be used for all entries in the list. Done
   • Date format: three different date formats are currently used on the article - the text and parts of the citations use month-day-year, other parts of the citations use day-month-year and the citation access dates mainly use year-month-day. As this is a US based article I would suggest converting all dates to month-day-year per the manual of style. Done
   • 'Hamlin wrote that "One or two tracks jut on past their vocal portions like soundtrack music to a movie listeners can't see (or are meant to create with their own eyes), but on the whole the mastermind's unique combination of the whisper and the guttural, his effective use of subtly shifting patterns inside a repeating framework, and his talented co-conspirators lift DC into distinction."' I see two problems with this sentence. The first is that it seems to be rather large for the "History" section and may be better placed in the "Music and lyrics" section. The second is that the readability of the quote is quite poor; it is a very long sentence with limited punctuation before the brackets and I had to read the bit about vocal portions and movie listeners several times before I picked up the meaning. There are a number of possible solutions; removing the quote entirely, reducing the amount of the quote we use or paraphrasing the quote into a more readable form (perhaps paraphrasing parts and directly quoting others). Done
   • Suggested links: Imago Records for "and signed with Imago Records," African American for "aimed at and produced by African American musicians" and Allmusic for "Allmusic reviewer Andrew Hamlin wrote". Done

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   • Is there an independent source for "released its sixth studio album, Rockalyptic Music in 2007"?
   • "Basehead has gained the rights to all of its albums." is supported solely by a self-published source. It doesn't look like a controversial statement, so the sourcing is adequate but I would recommend locating an independent source if possible. The current state is acceptable, so this will not affect the GA review.YSentence removed
   • I am a little wary that many of the substantial quotes come from a single source; Allmusic. The quotes are clearly attributed so it is not a massive problem, but I would recommend trying to find alternative reviews so that you can diversify the quotations used. This point is just a suggestion though as it is not serious enough to affect the GA review at this time.
   • In most cases, Allmusic is the only major publisher to have reviewed the album. I added an additional review from Rolling Stone for the album Not in Kansas Anymore. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 23:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC))

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   • The sentence 'Hamlin wrote that "Lyrically it's a solitary, rotting cabbage leaf."' seems a little out of place and leaves the reader with the question, "was it a flop?" I would suggest either putting in something extra to add context to the quote or alternatively moving it to the "Music and lyrics" section where it can be discussed in more detail.
   • "The group changed its name to dc Basehead, releasing their self-titled fifth album on November 19, 2002." It isn't clear if the name was changed at the same time as the release. Would an alternative phrasing along the lines of, "In 2002 the group changed its name to dc Basehead, releasing their self-titled fifth album on November 19" be appropriate? Done
   • "Basehead has gained the rights to all of its albums." Gained them from where and when?YSentence removed
   • 'David Jeffries described Play with Toys as "slacker rap".' Who is David Jeffries? Perhaps "David Jeffries from Allmusic described..." Done

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   • The article seems to maintain a neutral tone throughout. A mixture of praise and mild criticism comes out through the quotes and seems to lend a good balance to the article overall.

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   • No signs of edit warring within the last year.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   • The article currently has no images available. Is it possible to locate a free image of the band or one of its members (perhaps taken by a fan at a concert performance)? Alternatively is there an album cover that can be uploaded under a fair-use rationale like File:Pepper's.jpg? Not done

   Ibaranoff24 (talk · contribs) replied on my talk page to say that there are no album covers available that could support a fair use rationale.[1] No comment has been provided as yet about free-use images.

   There are no free images of the band. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 23:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC))

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail: - On Hold

I have placed the review on hold as there are a number of issues to resolve. I haven't completed the check of accuracy and neutrality yet; as it is after 3am here now I will complete the review when I get up. Reviewer: Road Wizard (talk) 03:34, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Most of the issues have now been resolved one way or another.[2] The points currently outstanding are the independent source for the sixth studio album, a reply to the suggestion of diversifying quotes, the rotting cabbage leaf quote and a reply on the status of a free image. Editors don't necessarily need to adjust the article over these points, but I do need a reply on why the change isn't being made if the suggestion is not accepted. Once these final issues are resolved I should be able to approve the change in status to GA. Road Wizard (talk) 02:30, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, there are only two issues that have yet to receive a reply; the independent source for the sixth album and the context for "rotting cabbage leaf". I have carried out a search for better source material and while there are some independent sources they are primarily sales sites which I am not exactly comfortable with including here - the self-published source is acceptable for a non-controversial claim so I am happy to drop this point.

The final issue, context for "rotting cabbage leaf" requires a reply; is it possible to add something to say if the criticism was justified? Was it a flop as the quote implies, or was it a success despite the criticism? Road Wizard (talk) 18:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Billboard does not have any charting data for In The Name of Jesus. I went ahead and removed the quote since there is already commentary on that album's lyrics in the "Music and lyrics" section. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 00:25, 26 January 2010 (UTC))

OK. Thanks for the reply. I am happy to pass the article as a GA. Road Wizard (talk) 20:20, 26 January 2010 (UTC)