Talk:Basil Doerhoefer House

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quotes and development

NRHP document reference is:^[1]

"Built in 1902, this residence was the first home of the wealthy tobacco merchant and business leader, Basil Doerhoefer. Doerhoefer was the most important real estate developer in this part of the West End, acquiring large tract of land along Broadway as early as 1890 and later subdividing it. Dennis X. Murphy began his career in the prestigious Louisville firm of Henry Whitestone before establishing his own practice with his brother James in 1890. The firm was responsible for such buildings as the Jefferson County Jail (1902-1905) & the German Bank (1913), as well as numerous designs for the Catholic Church and several commercial buildings for Doerhoefer's tobacco firm. After Doerhoefer's death in 1923, the house became part of the Loretto High School. It is now owned by the Christ Temple Apostolic Church."^[1]

"Significance: 4432 West Broadway is an outstanding example of an early Colonial Revival residence. Its excellence of design and quality of detailing are the work of a prominent Louisville architect."^[1]

What was in article, without indication of quoting from the NRHP doc:

The residence was the home of wealthy tobacco merchant and business leader, Basil Doerhoefer. He was the most important real estate developer in this part of the West End, acquiring large tracts of land along Broadway as early as 1890 and later sub-dividing it.

That is inappropriate: it takes distinctive language directly from the NRHP document and does not indicate that by use of quotations.

Also just removed from the article:

The Peter C. Doerhoefer House was locally landmarked in 2011 by the Louisville Metro Historic Landmarks and Preservation Districts Commission and was listed in the National Register of Historic Places in 1983, as a significant example of turn-of-the-century architecture in the West Broadway area. This house is one of the largest and most monumentally detailed of the American Four-squares in Louisville. This residence was built in 1908 for Peter C. Doerhoefer, vice-president of the Monarch Tobacco Works and son of Basil Doerhoefer. The land was actually part of the same lot where the elder Doerhoefer had built his magnificent home several years earlier. All of this land and both houses were sold to Loretto High School in 1925. It is now owned by Christ Temple Apostolic Church.^[2]^[3]

This also is inappropriate as it includes distinctive language directly from the NRHP document and does not indicate that by use of quotations.

Oh, actually now I see it seems to have been copy-pasted from Preservation Louisville's 2014 announcement (now archived):

Listed in 2012: The Peter C. Doerhoefer House was locally landmarked in 2011 by the Louisville Metro Historic Landmarks and Preservation Districts Commission and was listed in the National Register of Historic Places in 1983, as a significant example of turn-of-the-century architecture in the West Broadway area. This house is one of the largest and most monumentally detailed of the American Four-squares in Louisville. This residence was built in 1908 for Peter C. Doerhoefer, vice-president of the Monarch Tobacco Works and son of Basil Doerhoefer. The land was actually part of the same lot where the elder Doerhoefer had built his magnificent home several years earlier. All of this land and both houses were sold to Loretto High School in 1925. It is now owned by Christ Temple Apostolic Church, which does not use the house and would like to no longer maintain the property.^[4]

That Preservation Louisville text is itself inappropriate for including distinctive language directly from the NRHP document without attribution. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 16:27, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b ^c Hugh Foshee (January 5, 1981). Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory: Basil Doerhoefer House / 4432 West Broadway (Report). National Park Service. Retrieved December 30, 2022. With accompanying photo
^ Hugh Foshee (January 5, 1981). "Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory: Peter C. Doerhoefer House / 4422 West Broadway". National Park Service. Retrieved December 30, 2022. With accompanying photo
^ "Preservation Louisville Announces 2014 Top 10 Most Endangered Historic Places & Top 10 Preservation Successes". preservationlouisville.org. Archived from the original on 2016-03-17. Retrieved 2016-07-27.
^ "Preservation Louisville Announces 2014 Top 10 Most Endangered Historic Places & Top 10 Preservation Successes". preservationlouisville.org. Archived from the original on 2016-03-17. Retrieved 2016-07-27.

The two NRHP document references have been expanded by me. Right now this article has been reduced a lot; I plan add some writing there. Related articles in development by me (and others are welcome to contribute) are: Draft:Peter C. Doerhoefer House and Draft:Doerhoefer-Hampton House. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 16:18, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[nrhp-BDH-1] Hugh Foshee (January 5, 1981). Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory: Basil Doerhoefer House / 4432 West Broadway (Report). National Park Service. Retrieved December 30, 2022. With accompanying photo

[nrhpdoc-PCDH-2] Hugh Foshee (January 5, 1981). "Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory: Peter C. Doerhoefer House / 4422 West Broadway". National Park Service. Retrieved December 30, 2022. With accompanying photo

[3] "Preservation Louisville Announces 2014 Top 10 Most Endangered Historic Places & Top 10 Preservation Successes". preservationlouisville.org. Archived from the original on 2016-03-17. Retrieved 2016-07-27.

[4] "Preservation Louisville Announces 2014 Top 10 Most Endangered Historic Places & Top 10 Preservation Successes". preservationlouisville.org. Archived from the original on 2016-03-17. Retrieved 2016-07-27.

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