Talk:Bass Reeves

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Day of birth

The month and year at which this guy was born are mentioned. But what about the day? 122.3.106.172 (talk) 14:52, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Odds are the exact day is unknown. UpperPuppy (talk) 22:13, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

your right 75.109.244.213 (talk) 16:51, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Very short and lacks even some very basic information. Important as an example of an African-American in a position of responsibility almost exclusively the preserve of Whites in the 1800s, but not a particularly extrodinary or well known one. --Siobhan Hansa 01:03, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Good Faith

@Justlettersandnumbers: Is this personal? You're not even giving me an opportunity to revise my edits. It feels like you're purposely trying to harm my ability to make any future Wiki edits. You're not helping me, but feels like you're trying to make some sort of example out of me. Can you please give point out any issues and give me the courtesy, and opportunity, to revise my edit before outright rejecting them? I made these edits in good faith. Can you please extend me a good faith chance to make revisions before, not only negating all my time and research spent to make the edit, but also harming my future ability to edit?Justbean (talk) 15:18, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 20 cross checks with all web sources relative to Bass Reeves being highlighted in Drunken History. No repeating verbiage is apparent. I don't believe Ref. 20 is the subject of concern. Could you please double check the Ref# that needs attention? Jvanderpas (talk) 04:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reference #20

Could I trouble someone else to take a second look at Reference #20? I find myself questioning its authenticity. The same paragraph repeats twice in the article and the thesis paper mentioned was written by the author of the article. (The author gave no indication of this.) Weirder still, the blog post is dated 2015 but the "recent" thesis paper has a 2018 copyright without any kind of revision notice. One of the works cited for the thesis paper also has a 2017 date. The evidence presented may in fact be legitimate but the cynical part of me suspects another motive may be at play.

Added to state projects

Added this article to both Oklahoma and Arkansas state projects. Bruin2 (talk) 15:21, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comic Book Series

I just wanted to bring up that Bass Reeves now has a Walmart exclusive comic book series produced by AllegianceArts and Entertainment. Not sure if this should be included yet as the supposed "first season" isn't done yet. Proof can be found here: https://www.allegiancearts.com/bass-reeves — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.55.242.42 (talk) 08:06, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Literature?

Only two lines of the Literature section have references. I don't have a lot of cowboy lit in my library, nor any time to work on edits until Tuesday at the earliest. IAmNitpicking (talk) 01:20, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Use of word "enslaver"

The word "enslaver" is used here for what was traditionally called "slaveowner". I understand the idea of not using a word that suggests a human being really is just property as opposed to be treated like property. However the verb "to enslave" normally means to *make* someone a slave. E.g. when someone was "sold into slavery", or captured for the transatlantic slave trade, or what the Romans often did to captured enemy soldiers. I think the usage for "slaveowner" could cause confusion. Can someone tell me if this is now a standard meaning? The OED doesn't record it yet. I'm not an expert in this area. MirrorSquirrel (talk) 13:57, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is an American neologism. It's generally best to avoid but not make a big deal since some people feel strongly. DenverCoder19 (talk) 16:06, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deletions of old Talk Content

Having watched this page for quite a while, I thought a number of the discussion topics could be removed. Some of these were more than a decade old and had either been sufficiently answered long ago and/or they have been incorporated into the main article by other authors over the years. These involved film, TV, book, magazine, and pop culture references. Cheers, Montanakennedy (talk) 14:52, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CORRECTION:HE WAS NOT THE LONG RANGER

THE STORY THE LONE RANGER WAS WRITTEN ABOUT TEXAS RANGER JOHN HUGHES,NOW IT’S FACTUAL THAT BOTH GREAT MEN HAD A SIMULAR PATH AS LAW MAN AND THERE CONNECTION TO NATIVE AMERICANS BUT BASS REEVES STORY AS A WHOLE IS EPIC ON HIS OWN AND SHOULD NOT BE CONFUSED WITH A MASKED MAN. 2603:9000:E001:63F6:45A1:6F35:ECCB:289A (talk) 11:54, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I take it you are referring to John Hughes (lawman). Perhaps you can stop shouting (see the Wikipedia:Shouting things loudly does not make them true essay) & suggest what changes you wish to be made to the article. Right now, any reference to the Lone Ranger in the article seems pretty muted, so IMHO no changes are necessary. Peaceray (talk) 01:03, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Correction: though his name is registered in the census there are no record confirming that he was ever a lawman other than the fictional 2006 story

Fictional Story. 72.28.3.102 (talk) 02:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Please don't disrupt the article. Drmies (talk) 02:15, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Slave vs. Enslaved Person

There is a current strain of American thought that one should never use a word not ending in "person" to describe a person. E.g., "Swede" should be replaced by "Swedish person" and "the French" by "French people". This is not just wrong but incredibly American-centric. Here, as evidence, is the very embassy of France making fun of this "Americanism".[1] It is perfectly acceptable to refer to "the French", "Swedes", "a slave", "a plumber", "a senator", "a felon". If anyone agrees with me, can they change it back? DenverCoder19 (talk) 02:41, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DenverCoder19, that article is no evidence for the general statement, and it obviously has nothing to do with the matter of naming victims of slavery properly: they were human beings first. Some reading links, for you information: [2], [3], [4]. Oh, this is not just American usage: [5]. Drmies (talk) 13:44, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Explanation needed

If Reeves lived in Arkansas, how did he "know the Territory and could speak several Native languages" by 1875? Can some explanation of how he obtained such experience be added to the article? 2605:A000:FFC0:5F:F9BD:9D:B97C:57D4 (talk) 02:58, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

False Polyglot Claim - Needs Removal

"Fagan had heard about Reeves, who knew the Territory and could speak several Native languages"

The single web essay thats is the source for this [4], is from a defunct website, and makes this claim while citing no sources for the claim.

This is a real person and he deserves better.

[Edit: typo]

99.75.147.243 (talk) 13:51, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How would you pronounce his name?

And can we add the phonetic pronunciation tool in the lead so that readers can known how his first name was pronounced?

Is it "base" (like "ace") or "bahss".. (like the fish) Iljhgtn (talk) 03:14, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, actor David Oyelowo pronounces it like the fish if anyone else needs to turn to the talk page to find additional obvious information.

Shkysnk (talk) 17:22, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]