Talk:Battle of Hancock/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 15:19, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]


I'll get to this shortly.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:19, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm okay if this is going to be longer, but Sturmvogel 66 - I thought it might be good to make sure this wasn't forgotten, given that it's been about a month and a half. Hog Farm Talk 04:31, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Status query[edit]

Sturmvogel 66 you have not added a review even though you have been actively contributing to the wiki since then. Hog Farm sorry for that, seeing how you're in the WikiCup. I'm editing the nom status to 2nd opinion to see if someone with military history can help. A. C. Santacruz Talk 23:37, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the best way to handle it given all the WikiCup GA reviewing at the moment is to put it back in the pool for a new reviewer without loss of seniority. Which, if Sturmvogel 66 does not reply here with their next edit saying they're starting the review immediately, is what I plan to do, unless a new reviewer is attracted here by the second opinion request first. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:55, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not in a hurry. I'm perfectly willing to wait for Sturm to get to this if they're still intending to review it. Hog Farm Talk 02:00, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be happy to take over the review, if Sturm is busy. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 05:47, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Iazyges! Hog Farm Talk 19:22, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Iazyges and BlueMoonset: - We've passed the three month mark now, so it may be best to try to get a new reviewer. Hog Farm Talk 15:00, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Criteria[edit]

GA Criteria

GA Criteria:

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    2.c checkY
    2.d checkY
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  • No DAB links checkY
  • No dead links checkY
  • No missing citations checkY

Discussion[edit]

Prose Suggestions[edit]

Please note that almost all of these are suggestions, and can be implemented or ignored at your discretion. Any changes I deem necessary for the article to pass GA standards I will bold.

Lede[edit]

  • I've made some edits, feel free to revert any of them.
  • Commanding his own Valley District and Brigadier General William W. Loring's force known as the Confederate Army of the Northwest, Major General Stonewall Jackson of the Confederate States Army began moving against Union Army forces in the Shenandoah Valley area on January 1 suggest Major General Stonewall Jackson of the Confederate States Army, commanding his own Valley District and Brigadier General William W. Loring's force known as the Confederate Army of the Northwest, began moving against Union Army forces in the Shenandoah Valley area on January 1.
    • Done

Background[edit]

  • against Union Army threats suggest against the Union Army
    • Done
  • but were unable to capture the place suggest changing the place to it
    • Done

Battle[edit]

  • Ashby was told to tell I'd suggest changing told to ordered or instructed, if you are comfortable it doesn't change meaning from sources.
    • Went with "instructed"
  • and a sporadic artillery duel which inflicted no casualties continued until dusk not my area of expertise, but seems like Civil War battles were either 90% casualty meat-grinders or skirmishes where someone gives up and goes home. Very interesting. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 03:45, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • It was especially like that early in the war. The war was a bit of a transitional period in weapons/tactics; the bloodbaths were often from old tactics and new weapons. Napoleon was very popular with several generals on both sides, but Napoleon fought in the era of more inaccurate weapons. Although with a largely civilian army and a large number of officers with no/minimal military experiences, you get bad aim and general incompetence. Battle of Galveston Harbor (1862) was a particularly bad comedy of errors.
  • two sides combined for about 25 casualties during the fighting. suggest two sides combined suffered 25 casualties during the fighting.
    • Done

Aftermath and preservation[edit]

  • bout 50 acres (20 ha) of the battlefield is permanently protected suggest explaining further what this means, i.e. federal protection, state protection, local protection? What limitations are there, no changes can be made? Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 03:51, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Iazyges: - Source is vague. It uses the term "protective stewardship", which I've worked into the text. Clarified that two of the big ones are the NPS and the Maryland Dept. of Natural Resources. Hog Farm Talk 04:05, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Hog Farm: That is all of my suggestions, passing now. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 03:51, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Iazyges: - Thanks for the review! I'll get these suggestions implemented in the morning. Hog Farm Talk 05:37, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]