Talk:Battle of Nedumkotta

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historical data[edit]

The numbers of troops in this page are different from those given by historians. Prof. Sreedhara Menon states that Tipu attacked the Nedumkotta with a 7000 strong Army on Dec 29th. Though the legend of the destruction of the Dam and the subsequent destruction of the Mysorean army is engrained in the legends of Travancore, the historians do not offer any evidence of this. From what Prof. Menon has written, Tipu did eventurally break through the lines and camped in Alwaye, but had to retreat when the Company attacked Mysore. Please do not hesitate to correct me should you have the historical evidence that challenges Prof. Menon's statements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.11.76.215 (talk) 15:41, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Corrections[edit]

I have modified the language to make it more lucid. Since De Lennoy ended up as the Valiya-kappitan of Travancore, I have modified to description to "Dutch-born" from "Dutch". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.11.77.198 (talk) 11:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Results[edit]

Since Mysorean forces broke through the lines, but Travancorean forces had regrouped in Alwaye, I have modifed the result to Mysorean tactical victory and Travancorean strategic victory — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.11.76.215 (talk) 12:26, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is incorrect. Mysorean forces did not break through the lines in 1789 during the engagement that is the subject of this article. That breakthrough took place (as the article says) in April 1790, months later. Magic♪piano 20:25, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

From my sources (Prof. Sreedhara Menon, Prof. Elankom and Prof. Joseph), there was only one battle, which dragged on from December to April, and not two seperate battles of Nedumkotta. And in April, Tipus army breached the lines and reached Alwaye, though he could not proceed further. So that is why I said that Tipu won a tactical victory, though strategically, Travancore won because Tipus victory did not change the status quo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.76.184 (talk) 22:57, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

earlier enounters between Travancore and Hyder Ali[edit]

None of the history books record any direct encounter, though Travancore had given asylum to the Hindus and Christians of Malabar who were being persecuted by the Mysoreans. If there are any reputable sources that refer to military encounters prior to the Battle of Nedumkotta, please cite them. Prof. Sreedhara Menon says that Tipu tried to win over the Maharaja using diplomacy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.74.59 (talk) 16:01, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some one please edit quoting proper facts this appears to be wrongly written article praising the invasion of Travancore instead of condemning it.[edit]

Travancore was minding its business when Mysore attacked it. And Mysore did not win the war, since they scooted off back when the East India Company allies attacked them — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.11.206.145 (talk) 13:29, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP is not the place to either condemn or support a cause. WP maintains a strict neutrality policy. Read WP:NPOV. Xtremedood (talk) 18:23, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have added as much of references as I could. I used mainly Dewan Nagam Aiya's book and Prof. Sreedahara Menon's book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:46DD:2B00:DC92:5BA3:888:1080 (talk) 22:53, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The strength of the Travancore Nair Army was greatly reduced after several earlier battles with Hyder Ali's forces.[edit]

There was no direct military confrontation prior to 1790 at the Nedumkotta lines. so I am removing this sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.11.206.145 (talk) 12:46, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You need sources, not just POV statements. Xtremedood (talk) 18:23, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have provided the references by Prof Sreedhara Menon and Diwan Aiyah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.11.206.145 (talk) 15:13, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I had provided sources and yet the page has been reverted to portray Tipu Sultan, who had indulged in acts of religious persecution, in a better light. I think that it is best that Wikipedia itself judges the matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.11.206.145 (talk) 14:55, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

tidying up[edit]

I've tidied up a few grammatical and spelling errors. I also feel that there is no evidence for the battle of Nedumkotta irreparably denting Tipu's confidence; In Kerala, it is said so, but I have not come across any evidence for that or for the "blowing up of the dam". Quite possibly, the loss of the battle would have dented Tipu's confidence, but as far as I know, there is no evidence of it, he was back to plotting an alliance against the East India Company within a decade. Any evidence about this destruction of his morale would be welcome.

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