Talk:Battle of Qalamoun (2013–2014)
![]() | This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Hezbollah claim
[edit]isnt the 15000 hezbollah fighters number deeply overestimated? there were other talk pages were something like that was told.
- Yep it is a partisan source and highly dubious. They were present lall know it and no one denies it, but that is probably inflated.(Lihaas (talk) 16:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)).
I have just noticed that the SAA and allies suffered over 1,800 losses, is there a source for that??? I have checked the source and it doesnt state that.200.48.214.19 (talk) 13:23, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
1800 casualties for the saa? are you kidding? there is no source for that and the supposed source doesn't mentio a casualty figure at all. please remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.86.30.85 (talk) 22:40, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
The source is there and the source does say it. Read it more carefully. It says The activists have claimed the army and Hezbollah suffered up to 1,800 casualties in the 32-day battle, mainly in the ranks of the military, with rebel losses in the low hundreds, although precise figures are impossible to verify. Its been noted its an opposition claim. And please refrain from removing sourced material. Thank you. EkoGraf (talk) 13:47, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
1800 casualties is not even possible, because they won this battle and had air supriority. please remove this claim, it's ridiculous beyond believe, they have no fucking proof whatsoever.
Wellcome to wikipedia!! Thats my answer to the misinformation mentioned here. If the Oposition can mention its estimates why not the pro regime forces??200.48.214.19 (talk) 18:02, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
To do
[edit]Need a background of the war, Qusayr turning the tide, and the recent pressure from the chemical weapons and it s controversy of lclaimants/.
Also the refugees slipping into Arsal in large numbers
Also there was talk of this building up some week ago , I remember reading about it and wondering itd probably take months to happen. We should mention the rumours going into this as lissttle as a few months/weeks ago.(Lihaas (talk) 16:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)).
Links
[edit][1]>> Syrian troops seize strategic town>> Fighting rages in Syria despite peace talks (Lihaas (talk) 18:30, 20 November 2013 (UTC)).
Campaign Over?
[edit]How has the end date of this offensive been determined? I have not come across any other sources that suggest that this campaign specifically ended, although I have read that in mid-December SAA forces were re-deployed from the assault on Yabroud to counter a rebel offensive in East Ghouta (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/30/hezbollah-and-assad-plan-offensive-on-jihadists-in-yabrud.html). However, this page appears confused as to whether or not this particular offensive ended in December or is still ongoing - events are listed up to January 30, over a month after the info-caption has declared this offensive over, and there are indications that violence could pick again soon around Yabroud. Will this be a new offensive or part of the one this page says ended on December 15? - Neumannk (talk) 13:27, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- See the link above, its still ongoing.(Lihaas (talk) 17:44, 12 February 2014 (UTC)).
Divided the article into two phases.first phase ended when gov. Forces captured nabk,and the second phase began with the attack on Yabrud.Alhanuty (talk) 01:15, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
"Syrian army 'readies ground assault on Yabrud'"
[edit]Article uploaded by the AFP just 30mins ago. Article--Homan 056k (talk) 15:47, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Stalemate
[edit]The gov. Offensive has stalled per http://www.voanews.com/content/syrian-army-assault-on-qalamoun-region-stalls/1861464.html
Should we add a stalemate sub-title.Alhanuty (talk) 00:40, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
If the situation continues as it has we should close the second phase and put the result as a stalemate because the Army has not captured the town but has almost completely severed all links Yabrud has with the outside world. We should wait a bit more to see how the situation develops. EkoGraf (talk) 13:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Not really Yabrud is not really bisieged,there still supply line going into Lebanon.Alhanuty (talk) 17:31, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
I said almost. EkoGraf (talk) 10:17, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Is there any information about the SAA atacking Maaloula????200.48.214.19 (talk) 22:13, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Lebanese army?
[edit]What is the source backing the claim that the Lebanese regular army is involved in the battle? I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the article.--41.76.208.114 (talk) 05:26, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Fate of 25,000-30,000 rebels.
[edit]Acording to a pro-rebel source, the rebels suffered low hundreds of casaulties. But the big question remains, if the regime have captured circa 90% of qalamoun, whats the fate of the nearly 30,000 Antiregime forces. Are they dead/missing/captured or simply they escaped, there must be a logical explanation, several thousands of fighters cant dissapear without a trace. There should be a section that at least try to explain this.200.48.214.19 (talk) 20:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
reports state some of them went to Lebanon to regroup and comeback,others went to fight in the eastern qalamoun area between dumayr and sayqal airports,other went hiding in secret mountain hideouts in the qalamoun,and their attacks are resurging now,alot of military experts stated it is impossible for the gov to have full control over the qalamoun.Alhanuty (talk) 04:01, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
There is a new article named 2nd Battle of Qalamoun or something else, but it stated that the opening force of Antiregime forces stood at 3,000. A very distant number for those 25k - 30k alleged fighters in the begining of this campaign. Again my question floats by. Where are those 20k aprox fighters?200.48.214.19 (talk) 14:19, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Blacklisted Links Found on Battle of Qalamoun
[edit]Cyberbot II has detected links on Battle of Qalamoun which have been added to the blacklist, either globally or locally. Links tend to be blacklisted because they have a history of being spammed or are highly inappropriate for Wikipedia. The addition will be logged at one of these locations: local or global If you believe the specific link should be exempt from the blacklist, you may request that it is white-listed. Alternatively, you may request that the link is removed from or altered on the blacklist locally or globally. When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags. Please do not remove the tag until the issue is resolved. You may set the invisible parameter to "true" whilst requests to white-list are being processed. Should you require any help with this process, please ask at the help desk.
Below is a list of links that were found on the main page:
- http://justpaste.it/ereh
- Triggered by
\bjustpaste\.it\b
on the global blacklist
- Triggered by
If you would like me to provide more information on the talk page, contact User:Cyberpower678 and ask him to program me with more info.
From your friendly hard working bot.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 08:39, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Blacklisted Links Found on Battle of Qalamoun
[edit]Cyberbot II has detected links on Battle of Qalamoun which have been added to the blacklist, either globally or locally. Links tend to be blacklisted because they have a history of being spammed or are highly inappropriate for Wikipedia. The addition will be logged at one of these locations: local or global If you believe the specific link should be exempt from the blacklist, you may request that it is white-listed. Alternatively, you may request that the link is removed from or altered on the blacklist locally or globally. When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags. Please do not remove the tag until the issue is resolved. You may set the invisible parameter to "true" whilst requests to white-list are being processed. Should you require any help with this process, please ask at the help desk.
Below is a list of links that were found on the main page:
- http://justpaste.it/ereh
- Triggered by
\bjustpaste\.it\b
on the global blacklist
- Triggered by
If you would like me to provide more information on the talk page, contact User:Cyberpower678 and ask him to program me with more info.
From your friendly hard working bot.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 11:00, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
External links modified
[edit]Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to 11 external links on Battle of Qalamoun (2013). Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/20131129234413/http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jqEsqFe51OCJpUIlQP3POWfgRalw?docId=a9ca61b7-5c29-456c-bcf9-5b3ce8d31aff to http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jqEsqFe51OCJpUIlQP3POWfgRalw?docId=a9ca61b7-5c29-456c-bcf9-5b3ce8d31aff&hl=en
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/20131203163422/http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/28/3784783/syrian-troops-capture-western.html to http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/28/3784783/syrian-troops-capture-western.html
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/20131209162135/http://www.adn.com/2013/11/28/3201911/syrian-troops-capture-western.html to http://www.adn.com/2013/11/28/3201911/syrian-troops-capture-western.html
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/20140226121803/http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gHxSAHeg07q811lwZJSe76HfFljA?docId=808ac4a9-842a-4b72-82b7-6e6453c74851&hl=en=en to http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gHxSAHeg07q811lwZJSe76HfFljA?docId=808ac4a9-842a-4b72-82b7-6e6453c74851&hl=en=en
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/20131216003841/http://www.independentmail.com/news/2013/dec/06/syrian-nuns-taken-rebels-appear-video/ to http://www.independentmail.com/news/2013/dec/06/syrian-nuns-taken-rebels-appear-video/
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/20140227204712/http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iAOvyXgWCZwUncusII8U2nW-50Mg?docId=d5f41cf1-9ec9-4c84-bd25-575ef4f4ace8&hl=en to http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iAOvyXgWCZwUncusII8U2nW-50Mg?docId=d5f41cf1-9ec9-4c84-bd25-575ef4f4ace8&hl=en
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/20131214051817/http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/10/4682673/activists-say-12-rebels-killed.html to http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/10/4682673/activists-say-12-rebels-killed.html
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/20140313013553/http://www.google.com:80/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j7R2XbG7uHRogNntTGxPwmXJd8Qw?hl=en&docId=54117e06-b209-44c8-aaaf-5db9642406e3 to http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j7R2XbG7uHRogNntTGxPwmXJd8Qw?docId=54117e06-b209-44c8-aaaf-5db9642406e3&hl=en
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/20140316000936/http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/03/15/3996693/senior-foreign-fighter-killed.html to http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/03/15/3996693/senior-foreign-fighter-killed.html
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/20140321184538/http://www.google.com:80/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hOqDpMPwvxt2JYKufYHl9U7KmNeg?hl=en&docId=88d9cd8d-f254-4092-b189-3b49bf3c1aeb to http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hOqDpMPwvxt2JYKufYHl9U7KmNeg?docId=88d9cd8d-f254-4092-b189-3b49bf3c1aeb&hl=en
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140319233359/http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=291319677 to http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=291319677
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 16:27, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
External links modified
[edit]Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 7 external links on Battle of Qalamoun (2013). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20141029054917/http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/thomson-reuters/131117/syrian-army-besieges-town-strategic-qalamoun-mountains to http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/thomson-reuters/131117/syrian-army-besieges-town-strategic-qalamoun-mountains
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150214003711/http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/131122/syria-rebels-take-key-town-army to http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/131122/syria-rebels-take-key-town-army
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150128065253/http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/131208/syria-regime-forces-advance-lebanon-border-region to http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/131208/syria-regime-forces-advance-lebanon-border-region
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20141029075016/http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140304/air-strikes-near-syria-rebel-bastion-yabrud to http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140304/air-strikes-near-syria-rebel-bastion-yabrud
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20141029085054/http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140315/fighting-rages-at-doorstep-key-syria-rebel-bastion to http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140315/fighting-rages-at-doorstep-key-syria-rebel-bastion
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20141029083538/http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/thomson-reuters/140409/assads-forces-recapture-rebel-border-town to http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/thomson-reuters/140409/assads-forces-recapture-rebel-border-town
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20141029073509/http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140413/13-dead-syria-planes-hit-rebel-bastions-near-damascus to http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140413/13-dead-syria-planes-hit-rebel-bastions-near-damascus
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 20:17, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
External links modified
[edit]Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 7 external links on Battle of Qalamoun (2013). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20141021123214/http://byonlineweb.com/2013/11/17/syria-air-force-bombards-town-near-lebanon-monitor/ to http://byonlineweb.com/2013/11/17/syria-air-force-bombards-town-near-lebanon-monitor/
- Corrected formatting/usage for https://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gHxSAHeg07q811lwZJSe76HfFljA?docId=808ac4a9-842a-4b72-82b7-6e6453c74851&hl=en%3Den
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131203030349/http://www.sunherald.com/2013/11/30/5156326/shelling-of-market-in-northern.html to http://www.sunherald.com/2013/11/30/5156326/shelling-of-market-in-northern.html
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150128071745/http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/12/07/338693/syria-army-retakes-alnabk-farms/ to http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/12/07/338693/syria-army-retakes-alnabk-farms/
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131212032234/http://www.macon.com/2013/12/08/2821527/syrian-troops-seize-control-of.html to http://www.macon.com/2013/12/08/2821527/syrian-troops-seize-control-of.html
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150626111415/http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/541695-syria-army-advancing-on-key-rebel-town-supply-route/ to http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/541695-syria-army-advancing-on-key-rebel-town-supply-route/
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140310072431/http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/164197/syrian-army-advances-amid-new-wave-of-explosions.html to http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/164197/syrian-army-advances-amid-new-wave-of-explosions.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 05:07, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- C-Class Syria articles
- Low-importance Syria articles
- WikiProject Syria articles
- Start-Class military history articles
- Start-Class Middle Eastern military history articles
- Middle Eastern military history task force articles
- C-Class Lebanon articles
- Low-importance Lebanon articles
- WikiProject Lebanon articles
- C-Class Arab world articles
- Low-importance Arab world articles
- WikiProject Arab world articles