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I just finished the article on Humanism (learning theory) and will start the article on Behaviorism (learning theory) next. It will take awhile to get the articles approved.Stmullin (talk) 20:01, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This was based on my published dissertation which drew from the reading list posted on my user page. The research is not original to Wikipedia and is a legitimate secondary source. Please put a citation needed flag where you believe something needs to be tracked down to the original source and I will search my files for that information. What may be common knowledge to my profession may not be common knowledge to others. Please let me know and I will retrieve information from my files. Stmullin (talk) 20:38, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do not merge

Please remove the merge banner since discussion indicates a merge is not advisable.Stmullin (talk) 11:12, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The very recently created article Behaviorism (philosophy of education) overlaps significantly with this article, and has little new to offer. I propose to merge it into this one. hgilbert (talk) 03:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - I disagree with the merger and your opinion. The educational perspective is significantly different from the psychology perspective or even the philosophy perspective and the less overlap the better. Stmullin (talk) 15:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support - *I think it is ok to merge. --John (talk) 07:17, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - In general, I would love for there to be single comprehensive articles. However, the political reality is that people from different academic areas don't respect each other on Wikipedia the same way they might in a university setting. This leads to edit warring, and wrongful deletion of good material. So, the best way to accomodate this situation is to have separate articles, and in the main article, have sections with a summary for each of the others. Greg Bard (talk) 17:15, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - I agree there is overlap, and that there should be a merger, but I also agree with Greg Bard. That said, there is a discipline of educational psychology that has its own page, and there is a section on that page that deals specifically with behaviorism. Thus I believe that the discussion on behaviorism in education should be merged with the ed. psych. page, if there is any merger at all.--Lhakthong ([[User

talk:Lhakthong|talk]]) 14:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

If you must merge then merge with Learning Theory (education). Please do not mix Educational Philosophy with Psychology . . . the view points are very different.Stmullin (talk) 20:22, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - yet, there's overlap, but they are from differing paradigms. Bearian (talk) 00:07, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OPPOSE--while there may be similarities to their theoretical underpinnings, the way they are understood in the educational vs. philosophical context are different. They are mutually exclusive even thought there may be connections in understandings between the two areas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.148.44 (talk) 23:23, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why does this page exist?

What your are writing is a position taken by people who have an ideology opposed to a behavioral approach and seek to portray behaviorism in education in the worst possible way. The ideas of some behaviorists about education do not involve an instructor (e.g., consider programmed instruction which does not have an instructor). The real issue distinguishing educational "philosophies" is about instructor guidance. Behaviorist ideas related to education do not involve rote learning, which is memorization without meaning. Operant conditioning and systematic design work just fine for meaningful concepts (for about 50 years). The philosophy of behavioral educational principles should not be obtained from one source which doesn't seem to understand behaviorism and is ideologically opposed to it. Behaviorism, as a perspective, focuses on behavior, and the focus on educational outcomes is the basis for behavioral instructional principles. Behaviorists also originated systematic design in which final educational outcomes are analyzed and broken down to smaller, logically arranged, outcomes. Since operant conditioning works via operants (emitted behaviors) students must be active. I am not sure what purpose this page has other than a dump of some ideology couched as encyclopedic fact. Is is okay to present an ideology, but not okay to include a topic that is really not part of that ideology.Robotczar (talk) 17:58, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This page exists to categorize an educational philosophy that is widely used in early learning . . . especially in the form of Direct Instruction in Elementary schools . . . it is NOT opposed to a behavioral approach. My child attended a Direct Instruction Elementary school whose approach is behaviorist and has a track record of success with teaching spelling, multiplication tables, etc. in a fun and effective way . . . with appropriate rewards. I agree that the instructional theories linked to this perspective are pedagogical. Where we disagree is the definition of the word, not the concept. Behaviorism, as a term in education (not defined as broadly as all Learning) provides a term that allows us to discuss memorization of multiplication tables, etc. in a meaningful and informed way. This is differentiated from the strategy that will be experienced and taught in Middle school, which is more about problem solving and less about memorization.174.99.59.109 (talk) 18:21, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

philosophy of education

To be viable, a philosophy of education needs to include a theory of knowledge, a theory of ethics, and a theory of human nature.^[1] It should also "propound views about what education should be, what dispositions it should cultivate, why it ought to cultivate them, how and in whom it should do so, and what forms it should take," which would include a psychology of learning and teaching methodologies.^[2]

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^ Peters, R.S. (1977). Education and the education of teachers (Reprinted. ed.). London: Routledge & K. Paul. p. 77. ISBN 0710084692.
^ Guthrie, James W. (2002). "Philosophy of Education". In Frankena, William K.; Raybeck, Nathan; Burbules, Nicholas (eds.). Encyclopedia of Education, 2nd edition. New York, NY: Macmillan Reference. ISBN 0-02-865594-X. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)CS1 maint: postscript (link)

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[1] Peters, R.S. (1977). Education and the education of teachers (Reprinted. ed.). London: Routledge & K. Paul. p. 77. ISBN 0710084692.

[POEE-2] Guthrie, James W. (2002). "Philosophy of Education". In Frankena, William K.; Raybeck, Nathan; Burbules, Nicholas (eds.). Encyclopedia of Education, 2nd edition. New York, NY: Macmillan Reference. ISBN 0-02-865594-X. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)CS1 maint: postscript (link)

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