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GA Reassessment: Behemoth (roller coaster)[edit]

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This are the issues I have found within the article (most have to do with references, the quality of the article (the way it is written) is good and doesn't need to be changed.):

  • Numerous references are no longer working. These need to be fixed.
  • "some persons over a certain weight/waist size cannot be accommodated by this arrangement", needs a reference.
  • Reference 11 does not support all the info it is said to in the "track" section of the article.
    • It does support the sentence that it is attributed though — the source does mention the trim brakes. Ref 4, as cited in the article, supports the other statements in this section. Themeparkgc  Talk  08:23, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • I can't seem to find any mention of magnetic brakes (I know that the coaster obviously does have them but there is no mention of them in the reference...only trims)--Dom497 (talk) 19:26, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "At the boarding area, the station features three colour-coded cabinets for loose belongings – one designated for each of the three trains", reference number 13 does not support this.
  • "Unlike all of the park's other attractions, Behemoth has its own gift shop at the exit", Leviathan has a gift shop.
  • "subjects the rider to a maximum speed of 125 km/h (77 mph) achieved in less than 3.9 seconds", reference 4 or 5 do not support this.
  • "From the top, a passenger can clearly see the iconic CN Tower to the left and overlook the entire park to the right", is not supported by references 2, 4, or 5.
  • "reach the maximum speed of 127 km/h (78.9 mph) in 3.9 seconds," references 2, 4, or 5 do not support the part about 3.9 seconds.
  • "The drop creates an air-time sensation for the duration of the descent", needs a reference.
    • I removed this statement, itll probly be hard to find any kind of ref for that. It seems to violate NPOV anyway.--Astros4477 (talk) 21:09, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The entire "experience" section of the article should be combined into one paragraph.
    • I don't see how this is a requirement for a good article. What part of the critera suggests they should be merged? Themeparkgc  Talk  07:57, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's not, its I find it easier to read as one paragraph, I forgot to say in the initial statement that it is optional. Sorry about the confusion.--Dom497 (talk) 19:26, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The train waits at the terminal brake run until it is cleared for return by the station", reference 5 doesn't support this.
  • "At this point, the train passes directly above people waiting in the main queue below", doesn't have a reference.
  • Most references in the "operation" section of the article are not working.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dom497 (talk • contribs) 23:24, 12 July 2012‎

  • I've completed some work to fix the dead and outdated links. Themeparkgc  Talk  07:57, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've added some more sources to accompany the uncited claims. Just 4 more things to go. Themeparkgc  Talk  08:23, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Is anyone planning on fixing the four remaining issues? 7 days from now, if no changes are made or not actively being fixed, I will delist the article.--Dom497 (talk) 19:26, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm in favour of removing the remaining information that cannot be attributed to a source as it seems rather trivial to me. Anyone have any objections? Themeparkgc  Talk  23:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • I agree. I tried finding pictures or video of the station showing the three colored bins but nothing came up.--Astros4477 (talk) 00:08, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • This is going to sound sooo ridiculous but there is the video of Justin Beiber on Behemoth that shows the bins: [1]. I am not a fan of Bieber.--Dom497 (talk) 00:48, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
            • Haha I've actually seen that video before. That's probly the best you'll find though.--Astros4477 (talk) 00:59, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
              • At least its a reliable reference!--Dom497 (talk) 01:02, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are only 2 things that haven't been addressed. According to Wikipedia's Verifiability policy, "in practice it is only necessary to provide inline citations [...] for any information that has been challenged or that is likely to be challenged". I feel this is the case here. Nobody can legitimately argue that the train doesn't wait at the brake run until the station is clear. Also as you said yourself Dom, its very clear there are magnetic brakes on the ride. I personally feel these elements could be left as is and the article still passed. Also, if you look back at the originally reviewed article, this information was present yet the article was still passed. Themeparkgc  Talk  23:12, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you. The article will remain a GA. Thanks Astro and Themeparkgc for helping get this article back up to par!--Dom497 (talk) 19:30, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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