Talk:Ben Richards (actor)

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Merger proposal

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Merge Ben Richards into Ben Richards (actor)

I saw this request from a user on an admin's talk page and decided to take a look. Yes, these two articles are basically the same thing. Of the two, this one is more cited, so it should be the main article, with any unique information in Ben Richards brought here. As there are other articles on people with the same name, and also not knowing which one would be the most well-known (although I have a sneaking suspicion it's a fictional character from The Running Man played by Arnold Schwarzenegger, even if said character doesn't have an article), leaving it with the disambiguation parameter will probably be the best bet. As such, I hereby propose that Ben Richards be merged here into Ben Richards (actor).

Merge as nominator. --McDoob AU 93 20:11, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly Merge - same person, make one article. Looks currently like a decently referenced bio alongside a filmography table. Chris857 (talk) 20:28, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - As they are the same person. This is the better sourced of the two. Useful information that could be merged from the dup could be the filmography and the infobox. The rest is trivial guest appearences as himself on TV game shows etc.Rain the 1 20:42, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Is anything happening with this? Chris857 (talk) 00:02, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think I shall ask an admin to look into it. There was no need for this discussion IMO.Rain the 1 00:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved. There is a consensus that this article is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and that the disambiguation page should be at Ben Richards.
The page which used to be at that title has been moved to Ben Richards (British actor born 1972) to preserve its edit history. It remains a redirect to Ben Richards (actor),having been merged to that page in 2012. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:17, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Richards (actor) → Ben Richards – Already redirects here. --Relisted. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 01:57, 30 January 2014 (UTC) Unreal7 (talk) 15:09, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the destination page was merged into this one, so its edit history needs to be kept. I suggest its edit history be swapped with this page's if this is moved. The {{copied}} will need to be changed to reflect the rename. -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 04:51, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is a messy situation. I don't see the actor is a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here so the proper move seems to be Ben Richards (disambiguation) → Ben Richards; but if the edit histories are too messed up for a histmerge maybe it should just be left as-is, or an admin could juggle the histories as suggested by 70. benmoore 22:20, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Ben Moore. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The actor got almost twice as many (846) page views as the writer (476) last month. The other uses are negligible. That means the actor is more likely than all the others combined to be the one being sought, and much more likely than any other. That's WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, by definition. The disambiguation in the title should not be here, per WP:UNDAB. --B2C 05:36, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per B2C's statistics — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.175.135 (talk) 00:37, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(edit by me) and 23799 and 9806 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.175.135 (talk) 21:08, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you mean support per B2C's statistics?--Cúchullain ^t/c 17:10, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a message on the IP's talk page requesting clarification. --BDD (talk) 20:24, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support per B2C - the actor is much more likely to be sought than the other topics combined - in fact all the other topics besides the writer are partial title matches or have different names entirely. No evidence countering these findings have been suggested. The histories can be merged, swapped, or whatever option the closing admin decides is best.--Cúchullain ^t/c 17:10, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Not clear that the actor is "much more likely than any other topic" per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Other uses may not have separate articles but the Running Man character is certainly notable, being a Schwarzenegger film role. Move Ben Richards (disambiguation) → Ben Richards per benmoore (after the history pre-merge is preserved). Tassedethe (talk) 21:29, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Tassedethe. The actor is not a clear primary topic, if only because the question is clouded by fictional characters with similar names. Move the disambiguation page to Ben Richards, after preserving the histories by whatever means is adequate. Xoloz (talk) 04:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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