Talk:Beneficiary rule

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I've worked on the format, I've added some history, and I've added statistics. I don't see how you could add an image to the explanation of a rule like this. What more does the article need?Mustang6172 22:08, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed move to beneficiary rule[edit]

I think that the article might need to be retitled 'beneficiary rule' seeing as how the 'lucky dog' title is more of a marketing title for Television networks instead of being in the official NASCAR lexicon Ryn2me (talk) 01:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support I'm with you, the name of the page should be "beneficiary rule" since that's what the article is about. Having "Lucky dog" as the title isn't necessarily encyclopedic.--KaseyKahneFan 02:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I'm torn. "Lucky dog" is its WP:COMMONNAME, and "beneficiary rule" sounds more encyclopedic. I'm fine with either outcome. Royalbroil 04:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support I think it is best to use the official name.Mustang6172 (talk) 06:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support The term "lucky dog" is only used by some networks and broadcasters. The term is kind of creative, but it's no more significant than the term "free pass." And in fact, the majority of the article discusses the different uses of the two terms. Wild Fan 48 02:19, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite by an expert for the masses?[edit]

I'm sorry, but this page is pretty difficult to grasp without a basic knowledge of NASCAR, and assumes a familiarity that most people don't have. It could also use a computer graphic to explain which car would be the lucky dog car. And the name should be beneficiary lap, and it should be set to redirect "lucky dog" here. A few examples of where it gets confusing follow:

"The "Lucky dog" rule known as the Free Pass or officially the Beneficiary Rule is a NASCAR rule. The rule allows the driver of the next lapped car or truck behind the leader to gain back a lap during a caution. The driver is called to move to the end of the longest line of the cars at the end of that caution period. This rule was instituted to prevent drivers from racing back to the start/finish line when a caution was called." Driver of the next lapped car or truck behind the leader? Does that mean the car behind the leader, or does that mean the closest car that has already been lapped? Or could it be the car that is physically closest to the leader, even if 20 laps behind and there are five other lapped cars in between? "The longest line of cars at the end of that caution period". ???? So it's allowed to move to the end of a long line of cars? Where is said long line of cars?

  "* The driver had been penalized one (or more) laps for rough driving. This rule may be waived if the driver passes the leader and regains his lap back, and then is passed back."

What is rough driving, and how would passing the leader and getting onto the first lap and then getting passed again have any effect on the rough driving penalty?

" * The driver pits with the lap-down cars, unless officials declare a quick yellow, when all cars may pit.

   * During that pit stop, it is the only lap that car may take fuel. This rule was implemented October 30, 2004, after Ryan Newman won the first race with the beneficiary rule by stopping for fuel multiple times after gaining the free pass during that caution period, resulting in a win."

Everyone pits at one time? Or do they just pit whenever they want to? And the car can't take fuel the rest of the race? Did Ryan Newman stop for gas multiple times during the caution and therefore not have to stop the remainder of the race, or is it uncommon for nascar drivers to stop multiple times for gas during a race? L.cash.m (talk) 03:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]