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holy cow this page is hard to read. There are so many footnotes with citations embedded in the next. In some places it feels like there is more text in parentheses () than outside. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.8.68.159 (talk) 16:37, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This page is horrible. The first sentence states that the site is in modern-day Jordan, which is supported by the photo of the Bethany-beyond-the-Jordan baptism site in Jordan. Why then does the entire balance of the article discuss alternate sites in Israel? 77.245.3.99 (talk) 17:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The final paragraph should be deleted. The scriptural passages given there do not in a single instance support Wright's conclusions, as a simple review of the passages will reveal. A location in the upper Jordan Valley as the place of Jesus' baptism is not indicated. The traditional location on the Jordan east of Jericho fits with the scriptural statements; Wright's suggested location does not (do any reputable scripture scholars agree with him?). Furthermore, while it is true that Origen's emendation of the name Bethany to Bethabara "has much in its favor," the name Bethany (Beyond the Jordan) is given in all the most ancient codices and also in the most ancient papyri. Therefore "Bethany Beyond the Jordan," having greater scriptural warrant than "Bethabara," should not redirect to this site but should have its own Wikipedia article. I would submit such an article but am not certain I know how.Leocthomas (talk) 22:56, 10 June 2013 (UTC)leocthomas[reply]

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Unsourced / WP:OR?[edit]

I have moved the below text here, in case someone can bring sources to support it. It reads like original research.

Beth-barah[edit]

Bethabara has also been identified with Beth-barah, which, however, was probably not on the Jordan River but among the streams flowing into it (Judges 7:24).

Beth-arabhah in Judea[edit]

The Greek Septuagint Codex Vaticanus (LXXB) reads, Baithabara for Hebrew Masoretic Text Bēth-‛ărābhāh, one of the cities of Benjamin (Joshua 18:22). If this is correct, the site is in Judea.

Beth-anabra, Beth-nimrah[edit]

Another possible solution is the corruption of the name into Bethany and Bethabara, the name having the consonants n, b and r after Beth. In Joshua 13:27 (Septuagint, Codex Vaticanus) we find, Baithanabra for Bethnimrah (Massoretic Text), and Sir George Grove in Dictionary of the Bible (arts. "Bethabara" and "Beth-nimrah") identifies Bethabara and Beth-nimrah. The site of the latter was a few miles above Jericho (see Beth-nimrah), immediately accessible to Jerusalem and all Judea (compare Matthew 3:5; Mark 1:5). This view has much in its favor.

Abarah near Beisan[edit]

George Frederick Wright observes: "The traditional site is at the ford east of Jericho; but as according to John 1:29, John 1:35, John 1:43 it was only one day's journey from Cana of Galilee, while according to John 10:40; John 11:3, John 11:6, and John 11:17, it was two or three days from Bethany, it must have been well up the river toward Galilee. Conder discovered a well-known ford near Beisan called Abarah, near the mouth of the valley of Jezreel. This is 20 miles from Cana and 60 miles from Bethany, and all the conditions of the place fit in with the history."

Onceinawhile (talk) 08:32, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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