Talk:Bettina Cirone

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CaroleHenson

Are you seeing this message Carole?

If so we will look for Dustin Hoffman And the Hats picture. That was taken at the opening night after party for Death of A Salesman Broadway Play starring Dustin Hoffman in 1984. ( I was just informed by Bettina)

Thomas Courtney --Tmcourtney (talk) 23:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks, Tmcourtney! I'm having a hard time finding information about her career as a model - was her name different as a model (married since, changed first name, other), by chance?--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:47, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have found everything that I could find from reliable secondary sources, Tmcourtney. I am still unable to find an image of Dustin Hoffman with the hats. It would be nice to have at least two pictures: one of Bettina and one of her work. She's captured some very interesting images, like the one of Bridgette Nielsen and a man (sorry I forget who - football player???) and I think with a large picture of Bridgette in the background. It has been a fun and interesting article to write.
As a side note, it would be wonderful if an article could be written about her career, because I think what's out there presently just scratches the surface. For instance, it would be interesting to know more about the nature of her relationships with successful people, interest and contributions to publications about science and architecture, university education, and a bit about her personal life.--CaroleHenson (talk) 02:15, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't find an internet site for Cirone except for multiple social media sites (facebook, twitter, blogs, etc.) She's likely more involved in leisure than professional activities at this phase of her life, but I was wondering, does she have a personal/professional site that is not a social media site?--CaroleHenson (talk) 02:41, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So yes Carole CaroleHenson YOU ARE AMAZING! I can't thank you enough for all your help! Do you have a twitter we can follow?
And I will take all of your advise to work on. As the stories are brilliant from a long gone era with very interesting people!
So yes, Hoffman with the hat. I know the pic because it's part of a collage Bettina has in her house of "Dusty", they're good friends. I cannot find it online and must go through her files for a negative. Needles in Haystacks! I will get it though! Same with the others. Was the football player Joe Namath?
I will write an article on a platform about her as I do more interviews. Her modeling pics are stunning from the 50's, working with some big name Photographers. We'll get it all out there! There's a lot to share. I worked on the pictures for the Upload Wizard but got stuck with Knowing the dates of the pictures. I'll keep you informed when I find something we discussed
All the best to you Carole!!! --Tmcourtney (talk) 17:35, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Tmcourtney, It was very much my pleasure.
The image I was thinking about was this one, but on closer inspection, it says Brigitte Niesenator with Mark Castineau. I just thought it was an unusual picture for the time, with Castineau showing such vulnerability. You all know the body of her work, though, and probably know better what would be good selections for images to add to the article. You don't need a lot of photographs, in fact if you have too many it's likely an editor will come along and remove photos. The goal is to get a select few photographs that identify her style and range. For instance, see Ansel Adams.
If you're not sure of the date of the photo, you can just add the year that you think it might have been taken - or perhaps a mid-point within a range of years. I have a twitter account, but I'm afraid that I have not gotten caught up in the tweeting craze. All the best to you, too!--CaroleHenson (talk) 19:32, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Carole, User:CaroleHenson

Yes MG was a very big presence in footlball, way back when. I was going through Bettina's cutouts of her articles last night and there was one I must share with you, again finding needles in haystacks. I will be adding more images to her twitter day by day. @BettinaCirone I uploaded this below to her login page, of the one you mentioned with Dustin Hoffman. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dustin_Hoffman_at_the_Death_of_a_Salesman_Opening_Night_After_Party.jpg

TC — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmcourtney (talk • contribs) 18:34, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cool! I've cropped the newspaper article into individual images. Do you have a preference?
I created a category for Bettina Cirone in commons so any images that you'd like to add can go directly in her grouping: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bettina_Cirone
If you could sign after each message, that would be great! You just need to type--~~~~ as it appears here (or chose it from the "wiki markup" menu after clicking the down arrow on the insert box on the lower left hand side of the screen), and your name and date/time stamp will be applied like magic when you save. That would help lighten the load on the SineBot process. Thanks, he/she that manages the process will appreciate it, I'm sure!--CaroleHenson (talk) 19:35, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Carole they both look great, I did not know which I could use per the Wiki Requirements.
Thank you for setting up https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bettina_Cirone
What is the difference from the picture Bettina uploads to this profile page for images here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles/Bettina_Cirone&ilshowall=1 VS. the one you just created w/ Dustin Hoffman For me to add images to this: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bettina_Cirone
How would I do that??? Big Thank You!!! tc --Tmcourtney (talk) 21:42, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You are very welcome! Do you mean how do I crop the images? There is a way to crop them within Wikipedia using a template {{CSS image crop}}, but it takes me awhile to figure out how much down, across, high, and wide to go... it's so much easier to crop and then possibly adjust brightness, etc. I adjusted the one with the fedora for brightness to see if it make it easier to see his features.
I use several different programs... a very simple one, without bells and whistles is Paint. You can open the image, use the select tool, select just what you want in the image and then copy and paste it into a new file/page and then save it (I ususally save as jpg files). Most computers have at least a basic photo editor program or Paint. If there aren't too many, though, I don't mind doing some cropping.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:17, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Carole Sorry for the misunderstanding, but I'm trying to figure how to add photos to the URL you created

here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bettina_Cirone tc --Tmcourtney (talk) 22:32, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ohhhhhh! Sorry about that! A little down in the weeds was I?
You just type: Bettina Cirone in the "Category" field on the last input page which you upload a file. That's all.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:48, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
SUCCESS! Thanks Carole! --Tmcourtney (talk) 02:16, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Congrats!--CaroleHenson (talk) 02:27, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I took a stab at selecting some images and inserting them in the document. Feel free to make changes if you feel comfortable with the formatting... you can always "preview" to see how it looks and if there's a mistake, just back out of the page without saving... or let me know if you'd like some help.--CaroleHenson (talk) 06:18, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Can you find a source(s) that she's taken photographs of dancers and successful business people?--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:01, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the delayCaroleHenson ! I didn't realize I had messages. More from seeing images of the business people including Trump (cover New York Mag), and other NYC business people. And the pictures I have in some folders

One I've just uploaded of Nureyev and Bernstein on Twitter/pinterest. I'm still having troubles with Wikimedia. They're very tough over there:) I understand why though! I was inadvertently thinking Wikimedia was Wikipedia. Thanks for your continued assistance! TC --Tmcourtney (talk) 02:18, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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