Talk:Biff Pocoroba

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Biff Pocoroba article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

A news item involving Biff Pocoroba was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 29 May 2020.

Wikipedia

Biography: Sports and Games

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	Sports portal This article is supported by the sports and games work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Baseball: Braves Low‑importance

	Baseball portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Baseball, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of baseball on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.BaseballWikipedia:WikiProject BaseballTemplate:WikiProject BaseballBaseball articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Atlanta Braves.
	An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article.

California: Los Angeles

	California portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject California, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of California on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CaliforniaWikipedia:WikiProject CaliforniaTemplate:WikiProject CaliforniaCalifornia articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
	Greater Los Angeles portal This article is supported by Los Angeles area task force.

A fact from Biff Pocoroba appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 June 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Biff Pocoroba endeared himself with Atlanta Braves fans despite the team's poor performance, partly because they liked "the sound of his name"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Biff Pocoroba.

Wikipedia

Passed balls

Pocoroba was the designated catcher for Phil Neikro, who had a knuckleball that at times was equally unhittable and uncatchable. Some mention should be made of that, since the article points out that he led the league in PBs multiple times. Taterbill (talk) 18:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taterbill (talk • contribs) 18:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Taterbill: I haven't come across any reliable sources that say that Pocoroba was Niekro's personal catcher. Also, a passed ball is recorded when the official scorer concludes it's the catcher's fault (not pitcher's, which would be scored as a wild pitch). So it's safe to say that, regardless of how difficult it was to catch that knuckleball, the official scorers thought adjudged that Pocoroba should have been able to catch it with ordinary effort. —Bloom6132 (talk) 02:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:09, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(

Comment or view
Article history

)

... that Biff Pocoroba (pictured) endeared himself with Atlanta Braves fans despite the team's poor performance partly because they liked "the sound of his name"? Source: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
- ALT1:... that Biff Pocoroba (pictured) started a sausage business with his brothers after his Major League Baseball career ended? Source: Atlanta Business Chronicle; Forsyth County News; Associated Press

Reviewed: Albertine Lapensée
Comment: Eligible per Rule 1e, because it only appeared in the "Recent Deaths" section of ITN and not as a bold link.

5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:06, 29 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Do you have any proof that Hostess didn't renew copyrights? Therapyisgood (talk) 20:37, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Therapyisgood: I wasn't the uploader of the photo, so I have not one iota of its provenance. This article states that they stopped producing baseball cards in 1979, and the company itself went bankrupt in 2012. —Bloom6132 (talk) 21:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you really want I believe you can search the copyright catalogs online... but if not that's fine. The file is of some concern. I prefer alt 2 which is well-sourced and in the article. Alt 1 is also sourced and in the article, but could use a more primary source but it's perfectly fine for DYK. Article is OK by 1D rules. Expansion occurred from May 26–June 1, which is OK for timespan. Article went from 832 characters to ~5K characters now. QPQ checks out. Article is neutral, both facts are OK. Cites sources. Refs 1 and 10 copyright checked without copy-pastes. Everything is good to go except the image. Therapyisgood (talk) 21:01, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Therapyisgood: Thanks for the review! I'm fine with not using the image when this runs on the Main Page and have removed it from this nom page. —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:29, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Therapyisgood: Since the one concern you brought up has been addressed, could you please add a green tick? —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Good to go. Therapyisgood (talk) 10:09, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

According to Pocoroba's player pages on MLB.com, Baseball-Reference, and the baseball stat research website SABR.org, his actual first name is Biff and Benedict is his middle name. I wasn't able to find a source or an edit summary from User:UnhappyCanuck, who made these changes yesterday, showing how these reliable sources got it wrong. The infobox, the first words in the article, and the first words in the "Early life" section all should refer to him as Biff Pocoroba or Biff Benedict Pocoroba without nickname-denoting quotation marks. 108.73.104.136 (talk) 22:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed – I've changed it back to his proper first name. —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]