Talk:Big City Plan
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[edit]Seriously needs some more info about the new hospital - I work at the queen elizabeth medical centre site where this is being built and heavy construction has been very much underway for more than a year now... the old car park and several buildings have been completely removed without trace, a new multi-storey car park has been put in and is in constant heavy use, and there's much more to come.
heck i could write some of it myself if i find an extra moment somewhere to make it organised and proper
-tahrey
- I understand and I am gathering information about it to put in this. I am aware of some demolition and also of the construction of numerous tower cranes plus a temporary crane yet I don't have enough info as of yet to write a detailed section on it. - Erebus555 10:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
architectural dump comment. do we have a source? UKbandit 13:45, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Major edit
[edit]I have effectively re-written the article. I've added citations for everything and I have updated a lot of the information. A lot of information has been removed as I could not find citations for it or I just knew this was untrue.
So, does it meet to your approval? - Erebus555 19:21, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- mine? i supose it will have to do...;)UKbandit 13:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
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Rename and repurpose?
[edit]Interesting though this article is, I can find no mention of a "Birmingham Redevelopment Scheme", not least on http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/ - and none of the references use that title. Should the article perhaps be renamed, and repurposed, as "recent development of Birmingham", or some such? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 14:55, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- I started this article after finding the name used in the Birmingham Unitary Development Plan document on the Birmingham City Council website. Admittedly, that was a while ago so whether it can still be found, I don't know. I will have a look. But I actually think that renaming the article to Recent development in Birmingham would actually be better in widening the scope of the article because there are developments which were not even considered as part of this scheme which were still built. - Erebus555 (talk) 17:02, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
- This isn't a bad article, especially considering its alleged subject doesn't actually exist! Of course there are and have been redevelopment schemes for Birmingham and some - the Highbury Initiative and the Big City Plan for example - probably deserve articles of their own - they certainly have extensive coverage in academic literature. There are also less notable things such as the UDP that might suggest that general redevelopment is systematic. But none of these are really the subject of this article and there's no evidence here or anywhere else I can find of a big scheme called "the Birmingham Redevelopment Scheme". Isn't the subject of this article just "Redevelopment of Birmingham" (to sit alongside "Architecture of Birmingham", "History of Birmingham" etc)? JimmyGuano (talk) 20:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- The reference to the "Birmingham Redevelopment Scheme" in the UDP is an obscure reference - I don't believe that such a document ever existed. You must bear in mind that parts of the UDP date from the mid nineties and are well and truly out of date. The working title of the Big City Plan, following the Parkinson Report but prior to the development of the current branding was simply the "City Centre Masterplan". Plannerboy (talk) 10:49, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
New plan imminent
[edit]Just so the editors of this page know, the next phase of the Big City Plan project is due to be made public mid to end September, which may well require a substantial re-working of this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.249.57.49 (talk) 14:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
article needs work
[edit]Some parts of the article are dreadfully out of date. Some parts of the article are ideas that never got off the ground. Other parts of the article are contradictory: "The Big City Plan was launched in February 2008. Between December 2008 and February 2009 there was an extensive public consultation stage..."
"A large part of the scheme was the redevelopment of the Bull Ring..." The Bull Ring was completed in 2003. Big City Plan, plus its predecessor, was initiated in 2007. Things like this need clearing up to avoid confusion. WillDow (Talk) 08:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article seems to be based on the idea that the Big City Plan (the final details of which were only published a few weeks ago) is responsible for everything that's happened in Birmingham over the last thirty years. The article probably needs to be split into two - one a general survey of redevelopment in Birmingham, and one specifically about the Big City Plan. The two need to refer to each other, but they are not the same thing. JimmyGuano (talk) 20:43, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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Reorganisation
[edit]I note much of the information on this page is dated, and a lot of the detail (eg. city centre quarters, completed developments) is more relevant to the Birmingham City Centre page, which is sparsely populated and quite disorganised compared to other UK city centre pages.
Therefore, I am proposing to transfer the salient information from this page to the Birmingham City Centre page as part of a reorganisation, leaving this page to focus on the Big City Plan and its outcomes, which also need to be updated. BlueandWhiteStripes (talk) 10:09, 6 June 2022 (UTC)