Talk:Bill Crawford-Compton

Bill Crawford-Compton is currently a Warfare good article nominee. Nominated by Zawed (talk) at 07:58, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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deletions[edit]

the source used reflects true German losses, and their deletion, excused as "intricate detail" is unacceptable. The losses are relevant to the claims made by this pilot. 194.33.196.3 (talk) 13:58, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree; I reverted your changes as being mostly intricate detail. For example, what is the purpose of identifying Peter Goring as the shot down pilot? The original text didn't mention him and from your additions, it seems as though Crawford-Compton didn't shoot him down either so what is the relevance to this article? Also sources should be properly identified - what is Caldwell, and the War Diaries? They aren't listed in the references section. You can expect a bit of scrutiny of your edits when making changes to an article and not maintaining the existing citation and referencing formats. I will concede that less definitive language could be used in a couple of places and have made some changes in this regard. Zawed (talk) 18:59, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Nominator: Zawed (talk · contribs) 07:58, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 20:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at this one shortly. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 20:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prelim[edit]

No relevant duplicate links
Images correctly licensed
Article is stable
Earwig reports copyvio unlikely

Lede and infobox[edit]

We seem to usually hyphenate air vice-marshal?

Done. Zawed (talk) 10:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link flight

Done. Zawed (talk) 10:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add No. 145 Wing to the infobox commands?

Done. Zawed (talk) 10:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're brushing over his post-war career a little too much - maybe a sentence or two more about Suez and 22 Group?

Done. Zawed (talk) 10:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could add England as place of death in infobox

Done. Zawed (talk) 10:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Main text doesn't seem to mention his Legion of Honour

Early life[edit]

"There Crawford-Compton gained"

Done. Zawed (talk) 04:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Second World War[edit]

Link groundcrew

Done. Zawed (talk) 05:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest mentioning the Second World War itself outside of headings at least once

Done (in previous section though). Zawed (talk) 05:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link Circus offensive

Done. Zawed (talk) 05:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link commissioned

Done. Zawed (talk) 05:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"as a probable kill"

Went with different wording as I prefer to avoid using kill. Zawed (talk) 05:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"he claimed another Bf 109 as a probable" do you have the date? Currently very vague!

Added. Zawed (talk) 05:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first five paragraphs all begin with dates, suggest switching this up a bit

Done. Zawed (talk) 05:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link scrambled

Done. Zawed (talk) 05:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Another Bf 109 was reported as damaged" by Crawford-Compton or the squadron?
"during the engagement"

Done. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"and this meant he missed" > "and meant he missed"

Done. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be avoiding mentioning his promotions?! There's no clear mention of any rank between pilot officer and group captain
Was No. 64 Squadron also flying Spitfires?
Link Clères?

Done. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"while flying with No. 122 Squadron was credited with damaging a Bf 109" Do we know when?

Done. Zawed (talk) 05:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"operations of the RAF"

Done. Zawed (talk) 10:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Crawford-Compton was appointed wing commander"

Done. Zawed (talk) 10:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"and on 9 July, Crawford-Compton destroyed"

Done. Zawed (talk) 10:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clarify command of the wing for me? Some wording in the lede and main text suggest it's his command, but he only commanded the flying part of the wing, i.e. did have an officer above him in command of the wing as a whole?

This touched on in the first para of the Northwest Europe section. Deere was the overall commander, and he was subsequently replaced by Malan. Zawed (talk) 10:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Later life[edit]

"remained in his acting rank" Per one of my previous comment, I'm not sure what his rank actually was by this point!
The Gazette has him already as acting AVM at the time of his promotion?

Have revised, he had been promoted to acting AVM the previous month. Zawed (talk) 10:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What was he doing after Suez and before Cyprus?
A word or two on what No. 22 Group was doing/equipped with?

References[edit]

References look good, AGF for print sources.

@Zawed: Hi, you'll probably be shocked to learn I didn't actually forget about this! Comments above. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 19:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]