Talk:Bine (botany)

Botanical term fallen out of use.

Bine is an old botanical term that has fallen out of use. As mentioned by User:Sminthopsis84, sources in this article reference old use of the term, dating back as far as 1727, and the term is not included in modern botanical works such as Flora of North America or The Kew Plant Glossary: an Illustrated Dictionary of Plant Terms, Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew: Kew Publishing or by Hickey, M.; King, C. (2001).

See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Plants#Vine.2Fbine_mess --MCEllis (talk) 18:35, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Right-Left; Clockwise-Anti (Counter) clockwise?

The diagram presents a left-handed spiral as clockwise, and a right-handed spiral as anticlockwise (or, as we Americans say, counterclockwise). Is that correct?
I know the Flanders and Swann song (which I've known for over 50 years) Misalliance refers to the honeysuckle as right-handed/clockwise/right-hand-thread, and the bindweed as left-handed/anticlockwise/left-hand-thread. I suppose I shouldn't take that as authoritative. This article gives honeysuckle as an example of anticlockwise, and bindweed as clockwise.
But if you look at the right-handed "thread" from the base, you'll see that as it's growing, it's turning right--and that's clockwise. Actually, if you look at it from either end, you'll see the turns going away from you turning right--clockwise. OK, one could argue that then, it's growing towards you, so it's turning anti-clockwise. But considered that way, it's also turning left. Uporządnicki (talk) 19:07, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

You are right @AzseicsoK:, I fixed this in the Vine article, which Bine (botany) has now been merged into. I agree with proper botanical interpretations of twining direction from the plant's (ground level) perspective, but even this is highly inconsistent in the literature. A good read: As the vine twines ~ Mellis (talk) 06:29, 16 January 2018 (UTC)