Talk:Body horror

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Film. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see lists of open tasks and regional and topical task forces. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the guidelines.FilmWikipedia:WikiProject FilmTemplate:WikiProject Filmfilm articles

Horror High‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Horror, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to fictional horror in film, literature and other media on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit one of the articles mentioned below, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.HorrorWikipedia:WikiProject HorrorTemplate:WikiProject Horrorhorror articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Literature Low‑importance

	Literature portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Literature, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Literature on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.LiteratureWikipedia:WikiProject LiteratureTemplate:WikiProject LiteratureLiterature articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

A fact from Body horror appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 June 2018 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that body horror, originally a subgenre of horror films and literature, now appears in video games, comics, anime, and manga?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2018/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Body horror.

Wikipedia

Social and Cultural Influence

I made several minor corrections to grammar and punctuation. This is a fine new article. Perhaps the section on social and cultural influences could be expanded? Discussion about gender, nation, and race, for example, might be useful. This is a strong start and I look forward to seeing it evolve. AnaSoc (talk) 01:20, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with this page

How is The Blob a body horror? Its just a monster movie. This would be better presented as a direct quote from the source, as it contradicts other parts of this article.
Who is Michael DeForge? Is he well-known and important to body-horror? It seems strange that this unknown (to me) comic book artist gets a mention, but Charles Burns' Black Hole, which is much more famous and influential, is never mentioned.
David Cronenberg is not mentioned once? The man literally known as "the master of body horror". The Fly is mentioned but he had already directed at least five body horror films before that.

These are all great suggestions and would fit well in the existing body of the article. I will be clarifying the issues that you brought up here in the article. To answer your questions: films can fall under multiple genres, as in the case of The Blob, the original, which existed as a film before Body Horror was coined as a term. The Blob is also in the body horror genre because it centers around the horrors of mutilation, a key aspect of body horror. Michael DeForge is a well known animator and artist and has been referred to as the David Croenberg of comics. This will be added in the article edits. David Croenberg will be added in new edits also. As wiki entries aren't static and this is a new article that was created as part of an assignment, I encourage you to help improve this page by adding more material important to the topic.Itherina (talk) 04:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I totally concur on The Blob not being body horror. Maikel (talk) 10:56, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn't Jean Giraud/Moebius mentioned? There's a clearly body horror sequence of images in his "The Horny Goof" short story. Katsuhiro Otomo has been vocal about Jean Giraud influencing his work as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.196.221.177 (talk) 11:56, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Zombie

The article features a zombie image although zombie films are not even mentioned in the article. I'd argue that the zombie genre is at best related to body horror. I mean it's horror alright. Maikel (talk) 10:24, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Horror of the body VS body horror

The article seems to be about the horror genre as it relates to human body. But "Body Horror" is a very specific thing. For instance; the movie "Black Swan" is far from a horror film, yet a go to example of body horror. 2404:4404:1704:7700:2177:19DD:1C86:3E65 (talk) 10:00, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Information Literacy and Scholarly Discourse-2002

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 January 2023 and 18 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Alyssa.Alfonso (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by T.p.amalfitano (talk) 01:21, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alyssa Alfonso

Content Gaps

In the article, body horror is referred to as "grotesque and psychologically disturbing" violations or depictions of the human body. The article lists sex, mutations, mutilations, zombification, violence, and disease as types of body horror. One of the main content gaps I identified is the fact that the article is narrow in it's offering of the types of body horror. The article focuses on the extreme examples of body horror and nearly forgets about the less vile types. There are less severe examples of body horror that are informative and broaden body horror. For example, digestion is considered a body horror as well as pregnancy. Body horror is measured by the degree/level of horror associated with it. Slashing and grotesqueness is considered to have a higher degree of body horror due to the responses they receive from the audience. But it is important to also point out that there are less appalling forms of body horror as well such as the previously mentioned digestion and pregnancy, but also smaller things like pimples. This article refers to body horror as the fear of "unnatural or violent" distortions of the body, but that statement is not completely accurate. Sekrst talks of this in her article Terrors of the Flesh: The Philosophy of Body Horror in Film. Both pregnancy and digestion are two major forms of body horror that Sekrst discusses. Both of these are natural bodily functions, yet are common body horrors. Therefore, I think this article may be leaving relevant information out regarding body horror. The definition is somewhat narrow compared to actual body horror. While the article does discuss body horror in history, film, literature, and graphics/novels, there are a few key points that are missing. There are common interest gaps when it comes to body horror and it's relevance to feminism, the female body, and how body horror changes in extremity when a female is involved. I think the changes of women in history and their roles/expectations is relevant in body horror and should be included in information given.

Body Horror Additional Information - Femininity

Body horror is typically focused on only the grotesque and violent involvement of the human body. Oftentimes, body horror involving the female body is overlooked, but remains a key topic in body horror. Body horror seems to be brought to a new level when a female is involved. Feminism and anti-feminism are related to the subject. This also brings up the topic of pregnancy and body horror associated with it. According to Sekrst, birthing anxiety and post-natal depression are in connection with body horror. Within the history of pregnancy and body horror, pregnancy was known to be "hidden from public eye and to be ashamed of" (Sekrst). There was body horror revolving around the distortion of the human body and the changes that come with pregnancy. Though it is a natural bodily function, and has been around as long as humans have, pregnancy is still considered to be body horror. Throughout history, women are typically seen has feminine, delicate beings. Body horror is directly reflecting of this. People tend to be more sensitive and reactive to body horror when women are involved. The expectations and roles of women have changed through the years. Women have had the role of a nurturing, gentle, soft, inferior being for a very long time. Therefore, horror came from seeing women involved in violent, grotesque, unfeminine, and sexual acts. While these pre-conceived notions and expectations are being diminished, it is still relevant and effects body horror perceptions. Flexibility is also a form of body horror. It is also another example of a body horror that does not include unnatural or violent bodily movements. Many Japanese films involve women using flexibility to contort and disfigure their body. This is a form of body horror. It is also relevant to women and their role in body horror. Terry discusses women flexibility and the body image of "power and being limitless" (Terry). Flexibility is viewed as a body horror to some people, while some view it as powerful. Just like pregnancy is viewed as beautiful by some, yet scary/disgusting to others. Femininity, women, the history of women, and body horror are intertwined. It is important to include information on how woman and the perceptions of women have changed throughout history. This shows how the degree of severity of body horror surrounding women has changed/adapted.

Relevant Body Horror Articles/Review

David Huckvale (2020) Terrors of the Flesh: The Philosophy of Body Horror in Film - Kristina Šekrst

In this article, Sekrst talks about the book written by David Huckvale and how he discusses body horror in film. In this book, Huckvale talks about body horror as the anxieties that we experience about our own bodies and our existence. Huckvale made a point to say that humans are not a makeup of limbs, but a conscious, living, thinking human being. According to this article, body horror is in direct correlation with the fear of death, theories regarding life/existence, and “corruptibility” of our flesh. There are many things people can focus on while discussing body horror: digestion, mutilation, mutation, infection. Sex is also brought up often when it comes to body horror. Birthing anxiety and post-natal depression are mentioned when it comes to birth and body horror. Huckvale noted that for a long time, pregnancy was to be hidden from the public and was something to be shamed of. This all relates to body horror. Going back to digestion, there are people who have body horror about eating and digestion, and are disgusted by it. Infection/mutation is a type of body horror where people are horrified by the fact that there could be infection inside of them. This can cause hysteria and panic in people. All of these things are seen in films. Many films show body horror in different ways. The specific film that Huckvale writes about includes cannibalism – digestion, eating, infection, disease. The books makes you look at both your body and horror differently.

Horror and the Body: Understanding the Reworking of the Genre in Marina de Van’s Dans ma peau/In my Skin – Romain Chareyon

In this article, Chareyon discusses the film Dans ma peau/In my Skin and how Marina de Van represents the human body in the film. Marina de Van uses body horror both visually and technically in order to break down and “reconstruct” the definitions of pain in the body. The wounded body is depicted in the film as body horror. Blood and scars are present in the film. The film uses body horror in order to show character subjectivity. Though wounded bodies are shown, the film does not show violence, gory scenes, or dismembered bodies as typical horror films do. The film is depicting skin as a “transformable surface”. Malleability is used to describe flesh. The film is not traditional at all.

References

Chareyron, Romain. “Horror and the Body: Understanding the Reworking of the Genre in Marina de Van’s Dans Ma Peau/in My Skin (2001).” Imaginations Journal of Cross-Cultural Image Studies/Revue D Études Interculturelle de L Image, vol. 4, no. 1, 27 Aug. 2013, https://doi.org/10.17742/image.scandal.4-1.9.

Šekrst, Kristina. “David Huckvale (2020) Terrors of the Flesh: The Philosophy of Body Horror in Film.” Film-Philosophy, vol. 26, no. 2, June 2022, pp. 280–283, https://doi.org/10.3366/film.2022.0201. Accessed 24 June 2022.

Stopenski, Carina. “Exploring Mutilation: Women, Affect, and the Body Horror Genre.” [Sic] - a Journal of Literature, Culture and Literary Translation, no. 2.12, 1 June 2022, https://doi.org/10.15291/sic/2.12.lc.1.

Terry, Katelyn. “Contorted Bodies: Women’s Representation in Japanese Horror Films.” Film Matters, vol. 9, no. 2, 1 Sept. 2018, pp. 57–68, https://doi.org/10.1386/fm.9.2.57_1. Accessed 7 Nov. 2019.

Video Game Section Too Authorative?

The section regarding body horror video games lists a game and its sequel that are far and away primarily survival horror games, which I can only imagine were selected as they contain physically abnormal humans as enemies- however, as far as I am aware, transformation, distortion, and the player's body are not centralized in these games.

Furthermore, the phrasing of "these are the best games in the genre" is far and away too authoritative. It presents a stance favoring two games, without quoting that stance or sourcing anything to demonstrate why these games are valuable as body horror.

I can assure, without question, that there are games which fit into the box of "boddy horror" better, and I can also assure you that the current section's completely authoritative and unsourced claim about "The Forest" and its sequel is not good article writing. Catwalkninja (talk) 16:18, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]