Talk:Bold Nebraska

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Bold Nebraska was founded and remains a nonprofit advocacy group that brings Nebraska citizens voices together to change the political landscape of our state. Bold was not founded as an environmental group but when the pipeline was threatening property rights, the Sandhills and the Aquifer the Bold team decided to take the issue head on. The description of Bold Nebraska as written is inaccurate and was written by someone who wants to see the pipeline built and wants to try to make Bold appear liberal and out of touch. Edits have been made to give a more accurate description of Bold Nebraska and its founder Jane Fleming Kleeb.

This article draws attention to its awkward grammatical constructions which discredits its subject. I would help edit this article but I would like to see more comments from those who believe this article is legitimate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nasusan (talk • contribs) 14:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

I can't determine how legitimate the article is yet - but a first read through to me shows this article has a few shadows of political bias across it. I'll monitor it a bit and spend a little time seeing what I can do.Too soon for love (talk) 20:46, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

I just deleted the second paragraph, no sources

I didn't see any sources for the second paragraph, additionally it seemed like an awkward sentence with no context. I removed it. If there are sources or I am mistaken here apologies but I see no other alternative than a delete. If there is a controversy regarding this group I propose starting a new section called 'Controversies' and perhaps list sourced issues there. A few other problems with the overall article but I thought I would start with this contribution. Too soon for love (talk) 20:51, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Suggestion for Jane Fleming Kleeb section

Jane Fleming Kleeb lives in Hastings, Nebraska with her husband Scott, an energy entrepreneur [2] and former Democratic candidate for the US senate (citation needed here) She has been involved in politics has run campaigns on a number of issues.

What do you think? If it's ok, put it in. Janifrax12 (talk) 21:43, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm perplexed as to why the article even needs sections on Jane and the other director? It seems like either a simple mention, one sentence. Not sure why this is notable for the encyclopedia? Too soon for love (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

There's little doubt that this is a legitimate article (at least in the AfD sense). Bold Nebraska gets frequent mention in articles on the Keystone XL pipeline in Nebraska, and there's certainly enough coverage in independent RS's to support an article.

Whether it's a well-written article is another question entirely. Looking at the page history, I have to concur with Nasusan: the original version was decidedly slanted against the group. Unfortunately, attempts to correct this seem to have pushed the article too far in the other direction. The description of the group in the lead section employs phrasing that fails NPOV, e.g. "protection of citizens' rights", "fairness in the workplace", "healthcare reform". The article's poorly sourced, and relies heavily on Don Walton's gushing profile of Kleeb in the Lincoln Journal Star.

I get the impression from the Nebraska papers that Bold Nebraska is very much Jane Kleeb's show, so the somewhat lengthy description of her and her history isn't out of line. Ammodramus (talk) 21:34, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Well it should at least explain somewhere that Jane Fleming Kleeb is the founder of Bold Nebraska! At present it looks like two completely separate articles. And the article needs a lot more about Bold Nebraska and its activities, to balance the section about Kleeb and her activities unrelated to Bold Nebraska: Noyster (talk), 09:41, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

If it's Kleeb's major contribution to the geo-political landscape that lives and dies with her input, then I propose it be renamed to an article about Kleeb. If it's meant to be more about the organization, Kleeb's background section should be shortened to only what she set up. -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:34, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

A Google search for "bold nebraska" produces 58,400 hits, while one for "jane kleeb" produces only 23,200. If we assume that Kleeb and BN are more or less interchangeable, then that crude measure of notability suggests that the article should continue to bear BN's name rather than Kleeb's.

I won't deny that this article is an abject pooch, and that, among many other things, it badly needs to make the JK-BN connection clearer. However, I don't think that the problem is an excess of material on Kleeb. In a well-written article on BN, that amount of background on JK would be appropriate. What this article needs is not the excision of JK material, but the addition of well-researched material on JK's relationship to BN and on BN's activities since its founding. Unfortunately, for this editor, time does not allow doing the necessary research... Ammodramus (talk) 20:40, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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