Talk:Boletus edulis/GA1

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Reviewer: Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

OK, first thoughts. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• What version of English are we in? color, but millimetre?

(British I think, so colors now colourized. I think British as there is more heritage for the fungus in Europe) Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:54, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• The mushroom is known as Ontto txuri or "the blond" in Basque... I would exclude foreign names for which no explanation is given from this list, or it just becomes a multilingual dictionary. The Swedish and Norwegian are obviously cognate with the German; but I've no idea what some of them mean - my Croatian and Hungarian seem to be a bit rusty (:  Done hopfully we'll find some anecdotes or sources to readd some interesting ones. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:22, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
• Another cell type present in the hymenium are the cystidia - type is singular, should it be is?

I think it's ok, as the plural refers to cystidia (cystidium would be the singular). Sasata (talk) 19:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Very tricky to make it agree. I have just looked at it. I know what you (Jim) are getting at - I might ask Tony) Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• (about 21 mm) - needs conversion  Done
• The fruit bodies of B. edulis can be infected by the bolete eater (Hypomyces chrysospermus) - could the text say that this is a parasitic fungus without having to follow the link  Done
• Zimbabwean study - Zimbabwe is outside natural range but not indicated in lead as an area of introduction, (unless South Africa should be southern Africa)

Good catch, now it says more generally southern Africa. Sasata (talk) 19:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• Commercial harvest - weights only given in Imperial, can tonnes or Kg be added as primary unit

Added tonnes. Sasata (talk) 19:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• Nutritional composition - but I don't think it's sensible to have conversions for a chemical analysis

I'll have another read and check images and refs later. If you see this before then, can you indicate if you want FAC-type comments? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, if you give it a hefty shove past GA towards FA standards, that'd be much appreciated :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:51, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• Chinkapin, indigenous and linolenic acid are DABS

Fixed. Sasata (talk) 16:51, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• Images are appropriate and have acceptable licences, but several captions include the article name unnecessarily, contra MoS, and for FAC you will need alt text

Alt text on all images now, have tweaked image captions. Sasata (talk) 16:51, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• Refs look OK, but I couldn't get Pelkonen R, Alfthan G, Järvinen O. (2008) link to work

That ref has been removed. Sasata (talk) 16:51, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Not necessary to remove ref, just link Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:07, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

It's ok, the ref was for the mention of commercial availability in Finland. Sasata (talk) 19:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Second read

• It grows symbiotically with conifers, including pine and fir trees, an ectomycorrhizal association, - is hard work in the lead, what about something like - It grows symbiotically with conifers, including pine and fir trees, living on their roots in an ectomycorrhizal association?

Now "The fungus grows symbiotically with conifers like pine and fir trees, penetrating their roots in an ectomycorrhizal association," Sasata (talk) 16:01, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• of Linnaeus' seminal work. - which is?

Added. Sasata (talk) 16:01, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• sequester - link or gloss

Hope this is better: "Phytochelatins are chelating agents, capable of forming multiple bonds with the metal; in this state, the metal cannot normally react with other elements or ions and is stored in a detoxified form in the mushroom tissue." Sasata (talk) 16:01, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• A risotto made with porcini is a traditional Italian autumn dish......Porcini can be readily used in risotto. - two widely separated sentences, what about Porcini can be readily used in risotto, and porcini risotto is a traditional Italian autumn dish?

Sentences now united into one. Sasata (talk) 16:51, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• It is sold commercially in Finland. -so what? It's sold commercially in the UK and many other countries, why single out Finland?

No reason, removed. Sasata (talk) 15:42, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• Other studies suggest that B. edulis also has antiviral activity against vaccinia virus[106] and tobacco mosaic virus grown in culture - any practical use of these?

Added "Antiviral compounds from mushrooms are a subject of interest in biomedical research for their potential to advance the knowledge of viral replication, and as new drugs in the treatment of viral disease." (+ ref) Sasata (talk) 15:42, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Good Article nomination

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Straightforward enough, although I further tweaked the captions. It is known as hed tab tao เห็ดตับเต่า in Thai seems to be there more to show depth of research and to use the Thai character set than any useful purpose, i think that could be queried at FAC. More importantly, the lead section might be seen to be a less than full summary of the text given how it is currently structured; At least one section, Bioactive compounds, and several subsections including pests and predators and heavy metal contamination have ToC listings but no mention in lead. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

also I noticed additional capitalisation being added to titles in the refs -personally I tend to go the the other way and lc, but I don't know what MoS is on this? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:02, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the review Jim. You're right about the lead, it's one of the unchecked things on our FAC "to-do" list. As for caps, I tend to capitalize the book titles, but not the journal articles... but will check what the MoS says before FAC. Sasata (talk) 14:57, 17 November 2009 (UTC)