Talk:Borobudur ship

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8th century or 9th century?[edit]

Was this carving made in the 8th century or 9th century? The Borobudur article says the temple was built in the 9th century, but other sources say 8th century. 173.89.236.187 (talk) 02:08, 31 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Expedition Crew[edit]

The expedition was a remarkable project, bold as an adventure and salutary as an intercultural event. The description in the museum at Borobudur indicates that the crew changed during various legs of the journey. It would be useful to note how many people were involved in each leg, particularly if nobody was present for the entire journey. (It's been a few years since I visited the museum and looked at the lists of names.) Martindo (talk) 21:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion of Sean McGrail[edit]

I find it surprising that this article does not mention the interpretation of the images at the Borobudur temple given by Sean McGrail. Professor McGrail was, at various times, Chief Archaeologist and Director of the Archaeological Research Centre (1976-1986) at the National Maritime Museum Greenwich, Professor of Maritime Archaeology at the University of Oxford, visiting Professor to the University of Southampton Centre for Maritime Archaeology, the National Museum Centre for Maritime Archaeology at Roskilde in Denmark and the University of Haifa in Israel. He has written several widely cited books.

His opinion is that the images show a "boat-shaped log raft with an outrigger, depicted under sail" (McGrail, Seán. Early Ships and Seafaring: Water Transport Beyond Europe, p. 117)

Perhaps also of note is Dirk R. Spennemann (1985) On the Bronze Age ship model from Flores, Indonesia, International Journal of Nautical Archaeology, 14:3, 237-241, DOI: 10.1111/j.1095-9270.1985.tb01225.x This paper discusses dagger boards, which were notably used in rafts, both for steering and to control leeway. The paper interprets the Borobudur temple images as showing dagger boards. This, in context, suggests that there are raft-like elements of the vessel portrayed in the image. ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 19:37, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]