Talk:Borodino-class battleship

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This article says there were no survivors, the ship's page says there were four. ??? Rcbutcher (talk) 03:24, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kniaz or Kynaz?[edit]

To avoid debate (different opinions), does anyone know what the actual Russian name was on the Prince Suvorov's stern?

Did (does) the actual spelling (on the pre-dreadnaught's hull) in Russian, translate to Kniaz or Kynaz?

Thank you.

Longest voyage by a battleship fleet?[edit]

How can the voyage of the Russian Second Pacific Squadron be claimed as the longest such voyage in history when only a couple years later the Great White Fleet would travel over 43,000 miles in the process of circumnavigating the globe? Jrt989 (talk) 02:41, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]


  • It seems to me, that somewhere, some time ago, that sentence read, "Admiral Rozhestvensky led the Russian coal powered, steel battleship fleet, in naval history's longest voyage, to engage an enemy fleet in decisive battle." However, it's been amended to read, "...the longest coal engine powered steel battleship fleet during wartime."
  • Since you brought up the "Great White Fleet", you're probably aware of the fact that President Teddy Roosevelt won the Nobel Prize for negotiating an end to the R-J War (Treaty of Portsmouth); and that Teddy & and his cousin FDR loved ships, both worked for US Dept. of the Navy, both built or possessed model ships, and that Teddy knew what Japan's victory in the R-J war meant...that's why he ordered the "Great White Fleet", then it's mission...not just a good will journey (the official reason) but a "veiled warning" to Japan. Even though Teddy R., along with many other nations were cheering for the Japanese to win; deep down inside, they didn't believe they would. When Japan did win, it was, "O,Oh!" (Now What!?). So Teddy had to do something, this was the era of the "Yellow Peril"; hence the hidden message by painting those messengers with white paint. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.41.56.187 (talk) 22:04, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]


  • That sentence "...Longest battleship voyage in history...to engage the enemy in decisive battle" is on Admiral Rozhestvensky's website (his biography). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.176.154 (talk) 22:18, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Four cylinder triple-expansion steam engine"[edit]

I have altered the above phrase in the text below, because by definition, a "triple-expansion" engine has three cylinders, one for each stage of expansion. It is a form of "multiple-expansion steam engine". A four cylinder engine of this type is known as a "quadruple-expansion" steam engine. I will assume that the original person who wrote that was correct that there was four cylinders, thus I have altered it to read "quadruple-expansion". If it really is a "triple-expansion" engine, it ought to read "three-cylinder" instead. .45Colt 05:44, 5 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by .45Colt (talkcontribs)

You are wrong. Four-cylinder, triple-expansion engines have two low-pressure cylinders of equal pressure. Three different pressures used, hence triple-expansion. A quadruple-expansion engine would use four different pressures, by definition.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 09:51, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense. My bad..45Colt 22:06, 5 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by .45Colt (talkcontribs)

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