Talk:Boxing at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 66 kg
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This makes a bit more sense to me, so I agree with your revert of my change. The XY debate was from last year, and is unrelated to her forfeiting the fight this year. Thank you for your catch there! OnlyNanotalk14:33, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Clarifying here due to recent edits on the main page. This information is in fact irrelevant to this particular Olympic game. It is more appropriate for either the athlete's page or else the main Olympics controversy page. It is not relevant to the reason that one boxer resigned. She resigned the fight because she said she was hit too hard in her nose. The controversy is more appropriately outlined here and here. Khaveman (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A number of sources do make the connection. Reuters, for example, cites IBA Chief Executive Chris Roberts: "These two boxers are not allowed to box within IBA. So I find it remarkable how the IOC applies a different condition to this event," he said. So a bit more context would be warranted here. Brandmeistertalk16:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I personally don't believe the connection is relevant to this article. The controversy in this particular event is that one boxer resigned. Others speculated as to the reason, but that speculation has nothing to do with this particular event. That speculation has been responsibly detailed in the other articles I have linked. That said, I will defer to you if you have more expertise in boxing at the Olympic level. Khaveman (talk) 16:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The section's current text doesn't explain what is so controversial in Carini's resigning which technically is simply an admission of loss. CNN, Yahoo Sports, Voice of America, The National Herald, etc all have entire articles on the issue, with CNN also citing Italian PM Meloni (that the competition "wasn’t an equal fight"). So WP:BALANCE comes into play which could be resolved by one or two extra sentences. Brandmeistertalk16:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you. I guess the question becomes whether or not the controversy section is even relevant to include in this article. In my opinion, the controversy is not fueled by either boxer or the events taking place in the ring, so it is irrelevant to the particular Olympic game. But I understand if it should be better articulated for prosperity’s sake. Khaveman (talk) 16:59, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What does the IBC controversy have to do with this particular event? The only controversy with this event is that one boxer forfeited and later apologized. If you have an opposing view, it is the expectation that you will explain your thought process and be civil. Khaveman (talk) 14:56, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are a million RS's highlighting this particular match. Due to the gender controversy. Due to the perceived "unfair match". Due to the Italian boxer abandoning after 46 seconds because "she had never been hit so hard". That all relates to this specific event. You want to re-frame the controversy as being some "over-riding Olympic / IBC controversy", as if it has nothing to do with this event. Frankly, it's clear you have an agenda. And, frankly, your posts above are ridiculous. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 18:31, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I recommend checking out the five pillars before replying next time. I have articulated myself very clearly. You have not articulated how the events taking place at this event have anything to do with the IBC controversy. In fact, such a source does not exist. I am happy to be proven wrong. Khaveman (talk) 19:31, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your paternalistic reply, given under the guise of advice. I am not talking about some generic IBC controversy. I am talking about this specific event. You keep wanting to re-frame the matter as some generic IBC controversy that has nothing to do with this specific event. In fact, the article RIGHT NOW -- and, for the past day or so -- has a "controversy" section at the bottom. Does it not? Again ... Frankly, it's clear you have an agenda. And, frankly, your posts above are ridiculous. Thanks for playing. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 20:20, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing to exclude, as simple as this. May I please suggest that you familiarize with our policies before you continue posting here, otherwise some technical means can be applied to prevent further rants. Thank you. Ymblanter (talk) 19:56, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
