Talk:Boyd and Parker ambush

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Adding in audio link and/or published article of Lt. Boyd mission?[edit]

To Wikipedia contributors/editors associated with this page,

Is it possible to add in an audio podcast to this Boyd and Parker ambush Wiki page? The audio podcast was just released by TheHistoryNetwork.org and is a highly-detailed, heavily sourced and vetted account of Lt. Thomas Boyd's actions on this ill-fated mission. The article also has Masonic overtones and questions of Masonic betrayal between enemy participants.

The podcast is an audio duplication of a 2010 published article by Michael Karpovage that cites all of his sources at the end. That PDF can be found at this LINK as background research to his novel, which recreates the ambush in the opening prologue.

The podcast, read by Nick Barker of TheHistoryNetwork.org, can be found at this LINK and was released on January 30, 2012.

Not entirely sure how you could add an audio file or even the article PDF if that is consistent with Wikipedia policy. Please advise as these would be a great addition to this Page.

JakeTununda (talk) 12:56, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Prelude[edit]

Added additional information about Sullivan's march from Easton into the Finger Lakes Region based on the Sullivan Expedition article in Wikipedia. The article would benefit from additional citations so I will be consulting Barbara Graymont's Iroquois in the American Revolution and Glenn Williams' Year of the Hangman. Also corrected the common error of calling John Butler a Lieutenant Colonel when in fact he was a Major until February 1780. He had been a Lieutenant Colonel in the Tryon County militia before the war but was commissioned "Major Commandant of a corps of rangers" by the British in September 1777. Griffin's Sword (talk) 22:06, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of Citations, Number of Casualties, and How Boyd and Parker Died[edit]

Currently in the process of adding citations, fact-checking, and adding additional information.

Most sources, including the journals kept by members of Sullivan's army, report that Lt. Boyd took 26 men with him. This does not include the Oneida scout which the article failed to mention. Of the 28 total, four runners were sent back to Sullivan when Boyd reached an abandoned village; Boyd, Parker, and the Oneida scout were captured; seven of Boyd's men escaped the ambush, and 14 were killed.

The account of Boyd having his intestines drawn out appears in A Narrative of the Life of Mrs. Mary Jemison published in 1824:

...they made a small opening in his abdomen, took out an intestine, which they tied to the sapling, and then unbound him from the tree and drove him round it till he had drawn out the whole of his intestines.

While the journals describe in gruesome detail the discovery of the mutilated bodies of Boyd and Parker, they don't support the idea that Boyd was eviscerated in this manner. Lieutenant Colonel Henry Dearborn, for example, recorded:

Here we found the bodies of Lt. Boyd & one other man Mangled in a most horred manner From appeerances it seems they ware tyed to two trees near which they lay & first severely whipp'd them their tongues were cut out their finger nails plucked off their eyes plucked out then speer'd & cut in many places & after they had vented their hellish spite & rage cut off their heads and left them. This was a most horrid specticle to behold...

Some links are dead and are being updated and removed. Griffin's Sword (talk) 20:38, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]