Talk:Bruce K. Alexander

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Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because Professor Alexander has contributed enormously to the debate about the concept of addiction. He devised the controversial experiment known as Rat Park, and he is written two important books on the topic. Is the recipient of several prizes, and he writes and lectures widely.— Benralexander (talk) 21:08, 10 December 2011 (UTC) I have now provided numerous references to substantiate Professor Alexander's work, and I think that the existence of the references should go a long ways towards establishing why this entry is significant, relevant, and otherwise a worthy Wikipedia entry. Do my references make the grade, or is this article still subject to undergoing a 'speed delete'? 69.173.98.125 (talk) 14:03, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is too bad that ignorant editors delete articles - which is contrary to the whole idea of wikipedia. Canlawtictoc (talk) 00:07, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

This article is seriously biased, particularly for a scientist whose views are as out of the mainstream as Alexander's. Sentences like "However, an American representative in the World Health Assembly effectively banned publication, apparently because the study seemed to contradict the dominant myth of addicting drugs, as applied to cocaine." imply some sort of grand conspiracy to silence him, when really it's his unreplicable research that is keeping him from recognition.

Agree, why is artice is still here? Surprised to see allegations of worldwide conspiracy against legalization of drugs without any proof at all. How it doesn't violates rules of wikipedia saying that "However, an American representative in the World Health Assembly effectively banned the publication, apparently because the study seemed to contradict the dominant myth of addictive drugs, as applied to cocaine" 73.202.90.135 (talk) 14:02, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I third this assessment and it has been on my to-do list (still is). It violates several WP policies: WP:NPOV, WP:FRINGE, WP:MEDRS, WP:DUE. There are probably more. PermStrump(talk) 02:45, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah, and WP:BLP. PermStrump(talk) 02:47, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is nonsense. You people are just afraid of the impact it would have on your drug rehab services. Prof Alexander has been instrumental in arguing that 12 step programs don't work. Recent studies have confirmed Alexander to have been correct. Barbarians. Canlawtictoc (talk) 00:09, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Research has been replicated

I did a quick search on PubMed with keywords 'Enriched Environment Addiction' and immediately found numerous research articles that support and validate his research. Here are just a couple for opiates and there are many more for other addictive drugs:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19005643 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17331503

So the assertion above that his research is unreplicable is not correct. Willkn (talk) 01:47, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Willkn, the two studies you linked are not replications of Alexander's research and they in no way validate his findings. I've now read the full text of both studies. Neither of them mention rat park, Bruce Alexander or cite any of his research. While it's true that they're studies about enriched environments and opioid addiction, there are major methodological differences in their design and they come to categorically different conclusions. A replication study is when a new researcher openly and unequivocally repeats a previous study using the same methods with some different variables (different mice, for example). Therefore, even without being familiar with all of the scientific terminology, laymen can determine that neither study is a replication of Alexander's research based on the fact that they don't mention or cite his research. Permstrump (talk) 20:44, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is such nonsense it's sad that you are this ideologically possessed that you perpetuate in your position despite all the science showing you wrong.

InSite injection site in Vancouver has been doing research with same conclusions where addiction is increasingly seen to be a disorder of social disconnection.

What about R. Corey Waller of the American Society of Addiction Medicine? Or Robert Malenka of Stanford?

I urge you to divest yourself of this discussion if you earn money counselling or providing any sort of service or product for addiction because that will come out. Canlawtictoc (talk) 00:15, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Recent deletions

I recently deleted a large portion of this article mainly b/c it was either dubious and unsourced or poorly sourced and therefore unreliable for WP:BLP. I'm happy to elaborate if anyone wants further clarification. Just let me know the specific sentence(s) you're referring to b/c there were too many reasons to list them all out since I figured most people would agree. Permstrump (talk) 16:21, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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