Talk:California State Route 66/Archive 1

Archive 1

US 66 routing between Los Angeles and Pasadena

This was not a state highway until 1933. The 1927 and 1928 logs say that it went via San Fernando, almost certainly an error. I have not found any maps that clearly show the route. Modern books and online guides about the old route show the following:

• 1926-1931: Turned south off Colorado Boulevard onto Fair Oaks Avenue to Huntington Drive, then via North Broadway (1931 map)
• 1931-1934: Turned west off Fair Oaks Avenue on Mission Street to Arroyo Drive, Pasadena Avenue, York Boulevard, and Figueroa Street, through the new Figueroa Street Tunnels
• 1934-1936: Followed Colorado Boulevard to Eagle Rock Boulevard to US 99? (1935 map) this was all state highway
• 1936-1940: Followed Colorado Boulevard to Figueroa Street (1939 map) this was all state highway
• 1940-1964: Followed Colorado Boulevard to Arroyo Seco Parkway

--NE2 12:39, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Details of present SR 66

• La Verne
• Pomona
• Claremont
• Upland: relinquishment authorized
• Rancho Cucamonga: relinquishment authorized and done
• Fontana: relinquishment authorized and done; it appears that formerly unincorporated land here has been annexed by Fontana
  • Signed as US 66
• Rialto
• San Bernardino

--NE2 17:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Merge

Do we need 3 separate articles that cover the same piece of asphalt? Currently U.S. Route 66 in California, California State Route 66 and Foothill Boulevard all exist. I'll admit they three are not entirely redundant, especially given the Foothill Boulevard has a western segment that has no relation to the other two. Still, I think at least the two 66 articles should be combined, as in truth, they are the same highway.Dave (talk) 06:26, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

no they are not. us 66 is referring to a non existing highway. ca 66 is only a small portion of the original highway that ran in california(its more a bypass of ca30/210 prior of its completion of the 210 it connected to interstate 210. foothill boulevard in some areas of los angeles county has been re aligned so it does not follow the old us 66.75.25.14.41 (talk) 03:31, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

foothill also changes state highway status. in la vern, when foothill crosses the 210, there are still signs referring this section of street as CA-3075.25.14.41 (talk) 03:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

yes, merge. it is the same road, some parts my not exist anymore but that can be covered by different sections. same road - same article. J (talk) 20:53, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Disagree, do not merge. U.S. Route 66 in California is very notable on its own, and the article should cover the entire former segment of U.S. 66 in California, all the way from Santa Monica to the Colorado River, with all the history, photographs, etc. that pertain to it. California State Route 66 should cover the portion of the highway currently designated as a California SR. This portion is much shorter than the old U.S. 66 and is notable only because it is part of the California State Highway system and used to be part of U.S. Route 66. As for Foothill Boulevard, I would say merge it with California State Route 66 except that it doesn't follow the same alignment exactly, and I guess it should remain a separate (although slightly overlapping) article because of that. Regardless, I see U.S. Route 66 in California as the most important article of the 3, by far, and I think it should stand on its own. Darkest tree (talk) 22:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Not sure why this is still open (a discussion running from 2009 to 2011) but these should be separate articles if the state route is just one piece of the former U.S. Route 66 in California and not the entire highway, Santa Monica → Needles. I just split a pair like this (Arizona State Route 66, U.S. Route 66 in Arizona) because the state route article (originally Kingman to Seligman) was being used as a dumping ground for info about NRHP designations on pieces of US66 around Flagstaff or other sections not part of the state route at all.

The US 66 articles are part of a set (eight states, just TX is missing at the moment TX now exists to make a complete set) and I'd prefer the set be complete. TX is an unusual case as I-40 was deliberately kept to the same routing as 66, except in Amarillo, Texas and the few small towns on the route, so as not to create more Amboy or Hackberry-style ghost towns if they could be avoided. 66.102.83.61 (talk) 18:04, 14 June 2012 (UTC)