Talk:Canarsie, Brooklyn

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"The famous sale of Manhattan for 24 guilders was actually a scam on the part of the Indians. The Indians who did the selling were from what is now Canarsie; they did not possess Manhattan at all."

Manhattan was "purchased" for 60 guilders, often described as having the value of $24.

It is by no means established that the Munsee who "sold" Manhattan were from what is now Canarsie. The only extant contemporaneous information on the transaction consists in one line in a letter.

What this wiki article is publishing is apocrypha and legend.Zuzim 15:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]




Suggestion: I am aware of many more local celebrities than listed on the page that hail from and/or attended school in Canarsie. I do not want to add them half-heartedly and be accused of vandalism. If someone with more time/experience can verify and add them please do.
Some of the names are:
Lloyd Free aka World B. Free (Former NBA Player, Canarsie HS 1972)
John "Spider" Salley (Former NBA player, Canarsie HS 1982)
The Fat Boys (rap group, Canarsie HS)
Annabella Sciorra (actress, South Shore HS)
Peter Criss (Kiss)
Warren Cuccarella (Duran Duran, 1974)
Geoff Houston (Former NBA player/coach, Canarsie HS, 1975)
Al Roker (American Television Broadcaster)
Lance Schulters (NFL Player, attended Canarsie HS 1993)

Additionally, I believe John Salley, Howard Schultz and Al Roker all lived in Bay View Houses. --Angrymansr 18:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Canarsie friends overseas[edit]

Canarsie curiously has alumni or friends groups arounf the usa in miami los angeles chicago even in tampa and frisco.There are even several overseas alumni groups for X residents to meet. In Murcia Spain Steven Marcus heads this group.A second group is located in Israel where quite a few jews,from the days when Canarsie was a jewish neighborhood. have moved. Are there any groups in south america? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.38.17.233 (talk) 14:47, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Suggestion for Edit

The article says: "During the 1990's, increasing crime and lower quality of life drove many of Canarsie's white population to move to Staten Island, Queens, and Long Island."

I'm not sure how this should best be rephrased but as someone born in Canarsie in the late 70s who lived there through the "white flight" period, I would definitely dispute the validity of this claim about the factors that drove Canarsie's white population out. Those may be the coded justifications but it was racism and fear of declining property values that drove the white population out. No one stayed around to observe "increasing crime and lower quality of life", the flight was way too rapid for that claim to be accurate. Also, the increase in danger in Canarsie in the late 80s and early 90s was mostly violence by white residents trying to keep African Americans out of the neighborhood (real estate office firebombed and so on).

The line currently used is not neutral or verifiable. Also article should probably have mention of the specific violent incidents of the era as they made national news at the time and contributed to the extreme racial tension of NYC at the time along with the stories coming out of Howard Beach, Crown Heights, Bensonhurst, etc. 67.87.249.29 (talk) 09:20, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

whites left ..blacks right[edit]

in the 80s many white families left..Almost all the families living in canarsie in the early 80s were the pioneers,the original buyers of the zillion new homes in canarsie. Almost all were white as canarsie was marketed to white jew italian working class families with 2 kids below 5 years of age..The leaving was due to these kids getting excellent free education in some of the best publicschools in the country as well as free university top level at brooklyn college and cheap suny universities.The new lawyers doctors cpas university grads wanted NEW homes at their paycheck level..thus they exited to long island jersey. as they left, theur parents sold to get smaller homes in other parts ,out of canarsie.To fill the vacuum the next wave of immigrants or movinguppers bought in..the blacks..then tere were fights,riots killings as the remaining whites wanted the blacks out.Truthfully,it is racist to say here blacks are more crimeprone or poor are more crimeprone. the whites left cause when you earn 3x your dads check you buy YOUR new house where its bigger. Yes whites are racist and so are blacks but black is no more crimeprone than whites. The neighborhood looks today dirtier cause its older like the wrinkles on the faces of those white jews who grew up in canarsie in the 70s. Nowadays israelis are moving in as the blacks are retiring and going to smaller homes elsewhere. 2 sinogogues reopened,a nursery school where hebrew is taught and bildersee has hebrew classes. steve marcus

Who is the IDIOT that wrote this? Please - learn how to write a grammatically correct sentence - even just one! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.93.68.50 (talk) 16:22, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Grew up in canarsie .Im the idiot.by the way..grad 75 sshs on to Harvard for a phd in education 7 years later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.139.193.163 (talk) 16:03, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Radio Days[edit]

Someone should mention the plot of Radio Days occurs mainly in their house in Canarsie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.109.92 (talk) 21:58, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: John M Wolfson (talk · contribs) 03:27, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, I'm User:John M Wolfson, and I'll be your GA reviewer today. Here are the Good Article Criteria and how I think this article stacks up to them:

  • Well-written: I have removed some extraneous stuff in the lead, but with that I think this looks good. Nice job! checkY
  • Verifiable/No OR: If not an imposition, could you cite for me the assertion (that I deleted from the lead) that the area is part of Station 58 FDNY EMS? I think the information given in the Fire safety section might imply it but I think something explicit would be better.
  • Broad: This works well, IMO. It addresses a lot about Canarsie. checkY
  • Neutral: I see no POV stuff. checkY
  • Stable: I see one isolated instance of vandalism in the past 50 edits, which was quickly reverted. checkY
  • Media: Well-illustrated and everything's free. checkY

Just fix that one thing about the fire stations and I think this is good to go. John M Wolfson (talk) 03:27, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • I noticed that you re-added stuff to the lead that I had taken out. I can see the Community Board stuff being useful, but is it practice for NYC neighborhoods to be primarily identified by their police and fire stations to the extent that it's part of the lead per MOS:LEAD? John M Wolfson (talk) 03:45, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
John M Wolfson, thanks for the review. I have removed the FDNY EMS stuff from the lead (EMS is notoriously difficult to cite reliably) but I did restore the police precinct, community board, and fire station. epicgenius (talk) 13:11, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have rearranged stuff in the lead, but now that everything's to my satisfaction I am passing this GAN. Congratulations! John M Wolfson (talk) 17:56, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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