Talk:Capital punishment in France

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Article Improvement Drive[edit]

I've adding this article to Article Improvement Drive. Quoting myself:

This article has recently been translated from French to English. It lacks references, needs some wikification, doesn't read like an encyclopedia article and seems to be POV biased. Organization of the sections still seems quirky after several attempts on my behalf to improve it. Of note, Guillotine is usually associated with death penalty in France, and the previous has a pretty complete article including two sections on DP in France.

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Weird paragraph[edit]

This seems bizarre, quoting from article:

The guillotine had been proposed in 1789 by Joseph-Ignace Guillotin (although similar devices had been used before elsewhere). ... Guillotine usage then spread to other countries.

--Julien 22:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bizarre but true, my friend. Check out Guillotine. I think the use of the guillotine in France only became illegal in the 1970s. Tamarkot 14:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hum... not that I know of. AFAIK, even the last executed was executed by guillotine. I've also heard of the Fleury prison still having a guillotine in working order stored somewhere, but I can't find any confirmation of that. --Julien 09:54, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Neologism?[edit]

Is "guillotined" a real verb (to guillotine) or is it a coined word? Does it exist in a proper English printed dictionnary? --Julien 21:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Answer from Talk:Guillotine:
From the Oxford dictionary that's included with current Mac OS:
verb [ trans. ] execute (someone) by guillotine.
KarlBunker 00:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Counting error?[edit]

In the article's clemency paragraph, there is sentence:

President Georges Pompidou, who personally was a death penalty opponent, commuted 13 of 15 death sentenced imposed during his term, but sanctioned three.

My math skills says that 15-13=2 and not three, thus I suppose there is error in one of those numbers... Hookoo 09:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the "Most recent civilian executions under the Fifth Republic" section it says that three executions occured during Pompidou's presidency. I've changed the "Clemency" section. J-C V (talk) 00:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Huh?[edit]

George Rapin, guillotined in 1960, had originally his sentence commuted by de Gaulle. Olivier however refused a pardon and was executed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.79.41.190 (talk) 21:27, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

variations in french opinion[edit]

"In 2007, according to Novatris/Harris, 58% of French favor to the execution of Saddam Hussein. [4] [5]"
The ref 5 is ok but the ref 4 link to dakotavoice, a website that doesn't seem very objective. I suggest we remove it. Nesides, one link is enough.

Guillotine the only legal execution method at all?[edit]

When I read the introduction for the first time I thought it meant that the guillotine was the only legal method for being executed by in France since the French revolution:

Capital punishment was practiced in France from the Middle Ages until 1977, when the last execution took place by guillotine, being the only legal method since the French Revolution.

But later in the article I learned there is also the possibility for death through a firing squad. IMHO, the introduction has the possibility for misleading.

The article states that death through firing squad was an exception to deat by guillotine :
Article 13: "By exception to article 12, when the death penalty is handed down for crimes against the safety of the State, execution shall take place by firing squad." DITWIN GRIM (talk) 21:55, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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