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Jimmy Durante show was filmed, NOT taped

Corrected "taping" to "filming".

Videotape was not in use in 1955. The program (her final appearance) was shot on film, not tape. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.184.64.92 (talk) 15:17, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Rollback

I have reinstated a previous version of the article because the changes made in the last few months are, to put it mildly, a jumbled mess that is difficult to follow. Aside from the blatant POV wording (an entire section called "Repercussions" which is basically nothing more than blurbs from famous people who were surprised and saddened by Miranda's sudden death. Those aren't repercussions.), there was a chart added about radio airplay (?) right in the middle of the article, a huge eyesore of a gallery which I've never seen on any other biography on Wikipedia and grammatical errors galore ("After a presentation to the Hollywood star Tyrone Power in 1938, has envisaged the possibility of a career in the United States. Carmen received a salary of 30 tales of réis monthly in the Cassino da Urca and not was interested in the idea."). I'm sure there were some productive edits made in the last few months but the bad far outweighed the good. I attempted to sift through some of content in an attempt to decipher what the text meant but I don't feel like editing this article for four days. If this content is added back, it needs to be written clearly and not in what appears to be a rough translation to English. The chart should not be added in the middle of the article and the gallery should probably not be added at all. If people want to see a slew of pictures of the subject, they can click on the Commons link or head on over to Google. 24.72.176.211 (talk) 01:08, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

No evidence that Miranda was pregnant and died of pre-eclampsia

On October 12 2015‎ an unknown user added these lines: "According to the Encyclopedia of World Biography 2006, "Her death was officially reported as a heart attack, but it was later revealed that the 46-year-old star was pregnant, and died of pre-eclampsia -- a pregnancy-related condition characterized by high blood pressure and kidney malfunction."

Another user added "[...] after the Jimmy Durante Show, Carmen had toxemia from pre-eclampsia. She did not die from a miscarriage. Her death certificate only stated that she died from coronary occlusion. Water had developed on her heart from the toxemia. It has been researched that she gave birth to a baby girl. The child was not a miscarriage. The child was born alive."

The second excerpt was removed some time later, but the first is still there although there's no verifiable evidence that Miranda was pregnant and died by pre-eclampsia. In the article, the reference for this affirmation is pointed as "Encyclopedia of World Biography", without mentioning a page or more information -- I don't have this book, so I can't confirm if that really told in it.

Anyway, even if the book says that, it's not enough to change the article and put there speculations as facts. There's no difference between saying this or 'Elvis is alive': both speculations. Actually, none of the most reliable sources that concern her life (Biographies, original documents, articles, etc) mention a pregnancy in the end of her life, neither a death cause different than Heart Attack.

So, I returned the death cause to "Heart attack" and removed that excerpt.

Catódie (talk) 04:28, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

English

I've heard that after spending so much time in the US, Carmen Miranda learned to speak perfect, fluent English without an accent. However, in interviews, performances, and other public appearances, she was encouraged to speak broken, heavily accented English in order to promote her "exotic" "foreign" appearance.

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