Talk:Carrack

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Illustration

I think that the 1628 painting at the head of the article is really depicting a galleon, rather than a carrack - the artist is showing a ship of his own time rather than the Santa Maria.

I will see if I can get hold of a public-domain picture that better illustrates the features of a carrack. --Ndaisley 06:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is indeed a galleon.--MWAK (talk) 08:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

replica

Portuguese Nau - Free Paper Model available: RecorteCole from Brazil 207.138.239.198 (talk) 22:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC) Marco Lallo[reply]

Illustration, again

It is not clear that the illustration from the map of Ortelius depicts a carrack, specifically the distinction between the sails of the main and mizzen is not clearly defined. The features of the sail configuration of a carrack is clearly seen the 19th century depiction by G. A. Closs which I use as a replacement.Ekem (talk) 14:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for working on the article, it's needed. --OpenFuture (talk) 17:24, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Carrack's are distinguished more by their hull than their rigging. The original illustration was correct, and very clearly depicts the salient characteristics of a carrack. I am replacing the image. Fell Gleaming^talk 01:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fath Al Razack

It's extremely unlikely that this ship, supposedly built in the 1840s, was a carrack. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.127.139 (talk) 22:32, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Caravel

Weren't Santa Maria, Nina and Pinta caravels of the Columbus' first voyage? Were they really carracks? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ugurcanece (talk • contribs) 02:21, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Who says Nina and Pinta was Caracks? --OpenFuture (talk) 04:16, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, sorry about these two, but i'm not still convinced about Santa Maria to be a carrack. Have you got any chance to cite a scientific article? Because unfortunately I couldn't find one about this subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ugurcanece (talk • contribs) 12:32, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Santa maria has been reconstructed as both a caravel and a nao. The current view is that she was a nao. See Xavier Pastor : The Ships of Christopher Columbus 1992Monstrelet (talk) 15:15, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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How Fast?

How fast does the Carrack travel? I would like to know an average speed, max. speed ect. It would help heeps! 60.230.240.209 (talk) 06:51, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A typical three-masted carrack

It says that A typical three-masted carrack such as the São Gabriel had six sails: bowsprit, foresail, mizzen, spritsail, and two topsails.

But I had looked up bowsprit in wikipedia, it showed that bowsprit is a sprit, not a sail. Ok, maybe I can understand it as a headsail. However, why carrack doesn't have a mainsail? Shouldn't it be that "a typical carrack has the above 6 sails + 1 mainsail"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qijiang ok (talk • contribs) 17:46, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction

The majority of the article appears to assert quite confidently that a carrack and a nau are the same type of vessel; yet square in the middle of the article is a section arguing that they are not. This inconsistency needs to be reconciled. J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 18:03, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A user brought that section over from the Spanish version (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carrack&diff=621715400&oldid=619417121) but since it has no citations I am simply going to delete it for now. Oh, and here is the text in question:

(header) Differences between carracas and naos (/header)

Even in Spanish carracas are often mistakenly called naos. Notwithstanding, they are different.

Although the hulls were very similar in some ways, the carraca's hull was reinforced by bands and webbed frames of wood; the nao's was not.

The forecastles and aftercastles were larger on carracas than on naos.

Naos had only one lateen sail on the mizzen and only had topsails on the foremast. The sizes of the three masts of the nao were not as different as in the carraca.

Accordingly, the Santa Maria and the Nao Victoria were not carracas but naos.

If there are references to be found, obviously it can be reinserted and the article updated. And an article on Nau created, since this is redirected from there. Huw Powell (talk) 02:29, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Carracks were invented by the Portuguese, not the Spanish!

Carracks were invented by the Portuguese, not the Spanish! All the history books mention this! Please change that! 81.84.162.251 (talk) 17:05, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Top image

I know next to nothing about ships and sailing, but isn't the vessel in the bottom right of the current top image a galley type with oars? If so, the caption may be slightly misleading in saying that the painting depicts a "large carrack, thought to be the Santa Catarina do Monte Sinai, and other Portuguese carracks of various sizes" without mention of that. I know the caption is already long, but the contrast to the galley might be more informative than the occasion depicted in this case. Or I could just be wrong! But I came here to make sure I knew the difference between a galley which has both rowers and sails, and this type of sailing ship, which could be becalmed, correct? Becalming is not mentioned in the article that I see. Cynwolfe (talk) 13:23, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]