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GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 14:24, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies this review has been so long coming about. As it's been over half a year since it's nomination, I'll help out, and do this one. If anyone fancies helping out with World Snooker Championship 2018, I'd appreciate it!


Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 11:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Final Note - I think I have watched maybe a couple episodes of Casualty in my life, so I barely an expert. However, articles on Wikipedia should be able to make sense to most people reading them, regardless of how well attuned they are to the subject. So, If I ask any questions, let me know what I'm missing!

Immediate Failures

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  • It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria - No problems here. Other previous season articles pass GA.  Done
  • It contains copyright infringements - Basic CopyVio check brings in a few issues, namely the high levels on the Wikia link, and BBC/iMDB pages. These seem to be false positives, as I can't see much copywrite infringement, but I will later check images. Done
  • It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). - No banners present. Done
  • It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. - Not a great deal of updates at all this year, so clearly no warring  Done
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Prose

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Lede

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Cast

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Overview
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On 16 March 2017, it was announced that Roy Ellisson (John Killoran) and Denise Ellisson (Lucy Benjamin) would be reintroduced in April, alongside their sons Scott Ellisson (Will Austin) and Mickey Ellisson (Mitch Hewer). Hewer said, "I'm very excited for people to meet Mickey and for them to feel the difficulties that he endures in his life". Harper commented, "We met Mickey's parents in 2015, but don't judge a book by its cover. Mickey isn't necessarily cut from the same cloth in his dealings with the Casualty regulars and there will be absolutely explosive consequences."

  • as the actual cast list is only a list, it's hard to critique, but what exactly sets an actor as being a "guest character", rather than an extra? Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 09:22, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Funnily enough, we have recently discussed this at the talk page of Casualty (series 33). Guest characters tend to be separated into a few categories:
      • Crossover characters (characters who appear from Holby City such as Mo Effanga, Ric Griffin, Jac Naylor).
      • Past characters who guest star (including the 9 cast members who made guest appearances/cameos in the special episode, such as Lenny Lyons, Josh Griffiths, Tess Bateman, as well as other past characters like Ben "Lofty" Chiltern and Ryan Johnson)
      • Characters who appear multiple times in the series (these characters commonly serve a key purpose in the stories, such as Roy Ellisson, Jackie Munroe and Archie Grayling)
    • So the above are guest characters, whereas extras will often be the one-off appearances ("patient of the week" characters) and those who float around in the background. I hope that made sense and thank you for asking the question! - Soaper1234 - talk 00:13, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Production

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Reception

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Notes & References

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GA Review

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GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    Article is well written.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
    Article is well sourced for an article on a season.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    Covers a lot of information for this particular season, without going into others.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
    Some NPOV issues have since been resolved.
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
    Article has been on the GA shelf for a year, and hasn't been vandalised once.
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    Article only uses Wiki Commons images, so no issues.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
  • I am placing this review on hold, for the above to be seen through and discussed ElectrodeandtheAnode. It's a quality article, and I'm a nit-picker, but there are a few things here that would stop me from passing through a WP:GA. Please let me know if you need anything better explained, or if I'm being a bit silly with any of the points above. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 10:32, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • I believe I have addressed all the issues above (either with action in the article or a response). Thank you ever so much for doing the review Lee Vilenski. It's great to see it once step closer to a review. Soaper1234 - talk 21:40, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thank you for your time. I'll leave this open for a couple days so the original nominator can feedback with this one (would be a bit unfair as this GA has been open for some time to close it before then).
I will give it another full read after this, and give it a review and say yey or nay. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 22:00, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Lee Vilenski and Soaper1234: My sincerest apologies Soaper1234 that I have not contributed to the improvements which were requested by the reviewer. As you know, I am usually very prompt in responding to queries in GA nominations as I am incredibly passionate about getting GA status articles. I am truly gutted that time was not on my side to help improve the article, but I cannot thank you enough for the time you have invested in this article and the changes you have made to improve it. I have read over it once more and I am satisfied with the feedback and improvements that have been made. Also a HUGE thank you Lee Vilenski for reviewing this article. I am happy for you to read over it again, if there are any more queries, please let us know! ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 23:20, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @ElectrodeandtheAnode: Don't be daft! I've quite enjoyed being able to get stuck into a project like this again. If anything, I'm sorry I ploughed through it all without letting you have a chance to get involved. As long as you're happy with the amendments I've made then I'd be happy with this review. Soaper1234 - talk 11:29, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]