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This entire article needs to be reworked. Caw Prydein (of Pictland) is only named as the ruler of Strathclyde in one vita, the second of Gildas. He is only connected with two other figures, and both Gildas and Hueil’s careers have been speculated to a range of the late fifth century to the late sixth century. What might be useful is a listing of the sources that name him, and explanation of the limitations of those sources, and perhaps a discussion of what “beyond the Bannawc Mountains” meant. Tallhwch (talk) 05:26, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The initial paragraph is pure fantasy. Caw appears in the genealogies as a Pict, Strathclyde was not a Pictish kingdom. The Vita Cadoci says that he lived beyond the Bannawc Mountains, again not Strathclyde. There are no solid starting points for dating Caw. Gildas his son was, I believe, was active between 520 and 560. It’s possible Caw was active just before 500. Then again Gildas might have written De Excidio Britanniae in 500 as a 44 year old man. In that case Caw was likely dead by 480. His other son mentioned in legend, Hueil, is entirely undateable.