Talk:Centennial (miniseries)
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TV Series and novel
[edit]TV series didn't always follow the novel-in the novel a cruel Mexican Officer is tortured to death by peasants during Mexico's 1910 revolution. In the novel he merely captures peasants for slave labor in the Mexican mines —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.83.126.88 (talk) 13:41, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
ALTERNATIVE VIEW of Scream of Eagles episode: the presentation of Garrett and Wendell was informed by mid-1970s politics, specifically the rising environmental movement. However, today's approach to these issues is more nuanced, and Paul Garrett as portrayed often comes off as pedantic, cranky, and intolerant...and his continued defense of the cattle industry doesn't mesh with modern-day ecological sensibilities. Morgan Wendell, while made to be callous and calculating, nonetheless demonstrated a better understanding of how to work with business interests and keep an eye on the future. It should be noted that on the election night, Garrett got bitterly drunk, not a good sign for someone who is asking for the public trust. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.201.180.137 (talk) 15:40, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes the book and the Miniseries had a cliffhanger of who was going to be elected...would have been more interesting if the novel and miniseries had included the unwritten part of Garrett's son being a descendant of both Garret and Wendell...{See article} — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.5.84.175 (talk) 17:13, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]in the "hidden category" the applied conversion acre/square kilometers is 1/3 or 0.3/1 which is wrong. it should be 1/2.5 or 0.4/1 to be correct. therefore 6million acres is 24thousans square km. i myself am too drunk/dumb/old/stupid to handle WiKi-sourcery myself, as i am used to pen&ink&typex - please helpSintermerte (talk) 03:54, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
August 11 2024 - Regarding recent deletions of content and sources
[edit]Attempting to start a civil discussion about recent removals of content and sources, specifically these edits: [1] [2]. I see the inclusion of the content as pertinent to the mention of the actor's death during production. Would anyone else like to add their thoughts? A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 17:50, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- There is no need overcite the article. It is unnecessary to include multiple sources that all say essentially the same thing. In this case, the sources removed do not add anything. They merely repeat what is already contained in the other sources. As far as the removed content - that unintentional on my part. I overlooked it, and I don't have an objection to its inclusion. ButlerBlog (talk) 17:56, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I merely added a source that was needed to support a fact (the $50k). You removed it/them as well as the content I added. I don't see the productive value in that action and here's why: As far as I could tell, none of the other sources had that factoid included until I added the one from the Santa Cruz newspaper. Overciting is policy, yes. But removing sources needed to support content that could easily be challenged is worse than overciting. If you'd like to go through each of the sources against the content to see which one has what's necessary to support all the content in that paragraph, so you can be satisfied regarding what you think is overciting, go for it. But until someone does that, so many reference numbers can look like overciting but that doesn't necessarily mean there IS overciting if each one is doing what it's supposed to do: support all the facts in the paragraph. In such a situation as this, sufficient and less clutter is worse than comprehensive, numerous, and complete. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 15:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
If you'd like to go through each of the sources against the content to see which one has what's necessary to support all the content in that paragraph
... did that,[3] and you still reverted.[4] So it's unclear to me what your intention is/was - did you look at the change in that edit? Or did you revert assuming that it was just reapplying the original edit?[5] ButlerBlog (talk) 21:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)- I have re-applied the edit noted above[6], which accomplishes two things. First, it moves the citations to the sentences that they are supporting for text-source integrity rather than all at the end. That makes it clear what each source is supporting and makes it less likely for additional information that is unsupported to be inserted without notice. Second, it removes sources that do not add anything that isn't already covered by the other sources. ButlerBlog (talk) 14:20, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 16:22, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have re-applied the edit noted above[6], which accomplishes two things. First, it moves the citations to the sentences that they are supporting for text-source integrity rather than all at the end. That makes it clear what each source is supporting and makes it less likely for additional information that is unsupported to be inserted without notice. Second, it removes sources that do not add anything that isn't already covered by the other sources. ButlerBlog (talk) 14:20, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- I merely added a source that was needed to support a fact (the $50k). You removed it/them as well as the content I added. I don't see the productive value in that action and here's why: As far as I could tell, none of the other sources had that factoid included until I added the one from the Santa Cruz newspaper. Overciting is policy, yes. But removing sources needed to support content that could easily be challenged is worse than overciting. If you'd like to go through each of the sources against the content to see which one has what's necessary to support all the content in that paragraph, so you can be satisfied regarding what you think is overciting, go for it. But until someone does that, so many reference numbers can look like overciting but that doesn't necessarily mean there IS overciting if each one is doing what it's supposed to do: support all the facts in the paragraph. In such a situation as this, sufficient and less clutter is worse than comprehensive, numerous, and complete. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 15:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
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