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Something should be said about the Cessna 411's bad single engine performance, and the excessive amount of rudder force required to lift the wing of the dead engine. Aviation Consumer often wrote about this aircraft's defects.TimothyMN (talk) 23:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can add it yourself if you can find a reliable source. I would expect the info to come from a some sort of technical assessment rather than just an opinion site. MilborneOne (talk) 09:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One reliable source is FAA part 23.149, which says that rudder force for controllable flight must not exceed 150 pounds of force. I read somewhere that this airplane on a single engine requires more like 260 pounds of force to keep it flighing straight. I think the reference was in magazine Aviation Consumer. TimothyMN (talk) 03:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bad Handling

I've not been able to find my old copies of the Aviation Consumer which contains the Cessna 411 articles, but perhaps somebody may be able to track one down, possibly in an aeronautical university (Embry-Riddle, eg?) library. As I recall, Cessna was sued after a 411 crashed when an engine failed on take-off. A Cessna test-pilot then took a 411 off and shut down one engine, in order to demonstrate that the aircraft could perform such a maneuver. He crashed. The Aviation Consumer urged the FAA to ground the 411, although later on the addition of vortex generators seemed to ameliorate the poor single-engine handling enough to make the airplane flyable.98.170.201.140 (talk) 00:01, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is a reference about this fact in the article about the Cessna 402 referring back to the 411. Chapter development second paragraph under note (3). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.25.50.127 (talk) 20:41, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]