Talk:Child marriage/Archive 2
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Discussion before request move
I noticed that this article is using a title that is not commonly used in reliable sources. Early marriage has almost double the google books results hits of child marriage. [1][2]--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 13:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Same thing with Google scholar
- child marriage 36,600 results
- early marriage 67,300 results
- --SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 13:49, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- This is a deeply flawed and simplistic WP:Google test that compares apples to oranges. The title is not commonly used in reliable sources? Did you even look at the sources in the article? Almost all of them use "child marriage", or the equivalents "child bride" or "child spouse", many doing so right in the title. Are we going to argue against the United Nations' terminology? In your Google Books results, the first one is "Early Marriage: Child Spouses", and another is titled "American Child Bride"; one is about "Early Marriage Records of the Hopkins Family". The results for "early marriage are also older on average in both the Books and Scholar results. In the Google Scholar results for "early marriage", the 1st, 4th, and 10th are about the early part of marriage; the 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 9th include adults above 18 in their analysis, so are only partially overlapping with this topic; the 7th and 8th also use the term "child marriage". We are not going to use what would ultimately be a POV euphemism that is rarely used by sources, just as we title it female genital mutilation and not "female genital cutting". Crossroads -talk- 16:03, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Completely agree. "Child marriage" is obviously the WP:Common name. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 22:54, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Both names are widely used. "Child marriage" is the most common in works about contemporary society, while both have similar frequency in works about historical society. Overall I don't see a good case for changing. Zerotalk 05:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- This is a deeply flawed and simplistic WP:Google test that compares apples to oranges. The title is not commonly used in reliable sources? Did you even look at the sources in the article? Almost all of them use "child marriage", or the equivalents "child bride" or "child spouse", many doing so right in the title. Are we going to argue against the United Nations' terminology? In your Google Books results, the first one is "Early Marriage: Child Spouses", and another is titled "American Child Bride"; one is about "Early Marriage Records of the Hopkins Family". The results for "early marriage are also older on average in both the Books and Scholar results. In the Google Scholar results for "early marriage", the 1st, 4th, and 10th are about the early part of marriage; the 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 9th include adults above 18 in their analysis, so are only partially overlapping with this topic; the 7th and 8th also use the term "child marriage". We are not going to use what would ultimately be a POV euphemism that is rarely used by sources, just as we title it female genital mutilation and not "female genital cutting". Crossroads -talk- 16:03, 21 May 2020 (UTC)