Talk:China–Iran relations

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Article needs major expansion[edit]

This article is a good start, but it surely needs more expansion, as there's a two thousand-year gap between Parthia and modern Iran. Extensive and friendly relations existed between the Tang Dynasty and the Sassanid Empire. In fact, after the fall of the Sassanids to the Arabs, the last Shah, Pirooz, fled to China, which was a friendly country. There's also the extensive trade networks and the east-west transfer of people that occured under Mongol rule of both China and Persia, and later one, I believe the founding emperor of the Ming, Zhu Yuanzhang was part of a religious sect heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism and Manichaeism. --Yuje 01:34, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Heck theres not even a section on the Silk Road.--Zereshk 04:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also can we just call it "China-Iran relations"? China wasn't a People's Republic until 1949, and the articles here go back to the Sassinid period and beyond. 147.9.238.235 (talk) 23:15, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also notice, that you can't use pinyi , as Mandarin (正音書院, Zhèngyīn Shūyuàn) was invented during later Chinese dynasty later Pinyin was consolidation of Mandarin from 1728 on onward. I would think Persian Farsi language influenced early Chinese languages, such as Fujian or Cantonese dialects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephinnyc (talk • contribs) 20:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Why is this PRC instead of China?[edit]

This article should be "China-Iran relations" not modern PRC-Iran relations because it includes many events that took place long before the PRC was even established. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.199.32 (talk) 22:41, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good question, this articles talks about the history of contact and exchanges between the Chinese and Persian cultures before the PRC and IRoI existed. Sometime ago, this article was moved from Sino-Persian relations to here. Perhaps a move back should be considered. Comments anyone? -- Sjschen (talk) 16:31, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Note this move does not prevent a new article that discusses modern relations from being created. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:48, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


People's Republic of China – Iran relations → Sino-Persian relations — This article is not just about the relations between the current governments of China and Iran but extend back to dynastic times of both cultures. PRC and Iran relations deserve its own article. -- Sjschen (talk) 02:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
  • Support: Alright then, create a separate article and transfer content as appropriate. ―cobaltcigs 04:27, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: but there is not enough content for a separate article for the modern-day states. PRC and Islamic Republic relations can stay in the Sino-Persian article, just as PRC and Republic of India relations remain in the Sino-Indian relations article. Quigley (talk) 04:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why not Sino-Iranian relations? It makes more sense to me to use the current name. Ucucha 20:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: -- Sjschen (talk) 17:19, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

WSJ resource[edit]

China Is Expected to Resist Oil Shift 10.January.2012 by Bbb Davis, Wayne Ma and Jeremy Page ... Iran's biggest oil export is to China, Iran is third for China's oil imports. 97.87.29.188 (talk) 00:20, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with File:QizilDonors.jpg[edit]

Hallo, I recognized that the data which was given to this picture is based on wrong information:

  • 1.:The term "Sassanian style" was used in the wrong context.

What have been described is the wrong picture. The right one is Fig.1 on page 8 in this document: http://www.sino-platonic.org/complete/spp084_mummies_central_asia.pdf

The "Tocharian" Colour Plate on page 9 is not fiting to the description of Fig.1. So, the description is wrong. We need a correction of the information given in this document. I've informed the User Per_Honor_et_Gloria about this problem.

- Maikolaser (talk) 11:36, 15 March 2012 (CET)

Discussion at [1], so it won't be fragmented. --Cold Season (talk) 15:35, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

China's alliance with the Shah of Iran against the Soviet Union[edit]

China and Shah ruled Iran allied together to counter the Soviet Union. The Shah was impressed by China's victory over India in the 1962 Sino-Indian war and China's development of nuclear weapons.

http://books.google.com/books?id=CPMoRVo3fSwC&pg=PA33#v=onepage&q&f=false

The Shah's minister Asadollah Alam openly threatened the Soviets with a Chinese invasion of the Russian far east region

http://books.google.com/books?id=CPMoRVo3fSwC&pg=PA34#v=onepage&q&f=false

Hua Kuo-feng (Hua Guofeng) was the very last foreign leader to visit the Shah since China was allied to Iran very strongly

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55414-2004Nov16.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=YTrRom48fhAC&pg=PA109#v=onepage&q&f=false

China and the Shah's alliance was close and based on an anti Soviet ideology, so when the Islamic Revolution happened China was concerned, but the new Islamic Republic of Iran was also anti Soviet as well so China continued relations.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZUhhLwg85YEC&pg=PA106#v=onepage&q&f=false

China supported the Shah's nuclear program

http://books.google.com/books?id=kmQjlZ-3XeUC&pg=PT84#v=onepage&q&f=false

The Shah wanted nuclear weapons to confront the Soviet threat, the Shah also saw Iran as defender of Islamic states like Pakistan and central asian muslims.

http://books.google.com/books?id=PLRslDyjJHAC&pg=PA262#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=PeLdxrt8xBAC&pg=PA202#v=onepage&q&f=false

China's initial role in the current regime's nuclear program.

http://books.google.com/books?id=amkR1LkaQmQC&pg=PA275#v=onepage&q&f=false

China, the Shah ruled Iran, Pakistan and Israel also began an alliance against the Soviet Union. Israel's Mossad and Iran's SAVAK came together with China to plot anti Soviet measures, especially in Afghanistan.

http://books.google.com/books?id=J5C0R6qxjpgC&pg=PA54#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=J5C0R6qxjpgC&pg=PA56#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=YghqI97M56kC&pg=PA45#v=onepage&q&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 01:25, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Change of title[edit]

the title should be changed to "Sino-Iranian Relations" from "China-Iran relations" Essex History (talk) 08:49, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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