Talk:Christian worship
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May 2008
[edit]I've been doing some editing to contemporary worship and have linked it in here. I renamed the "contemporary" section "present day" to avoid any confusion, and also deleted a paragraph that was rather biased. I added a reference for my addition, which looks rather lonely as there aren't any others in this whole article! But I'm not an expert on matters relating to worship outside of contemporary evangelicalism so can't help here.
I have to say that the "present day" section seems extremely POV and probably needs a complete rewrite, but I'm not the person to do it. Also, I couldn't help noticing that all the photos in this article are of very "traditional" styles of worship featuring elaborate vestments, icons, and altars. I don't have any statistics, but I would say that this is completely unrepresentative of christian worship today. It's also very western-centric and omits, for example, african, asian, and latin american christianity. I hope someone will be able to correct this bias. Sidefall (talk) 15:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I removed one image that was linked on several other pages and replaced it with a picture of a contemporary worship band. I'd rather have something that showed a congregation as well, but couldn't find anything suitable. I think this helps correct the POV in the photos, but I still think better pictures are needed. Sidefall (talk) 16:25, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I've reverted a couple of edits by an unregistered user, who had removed the picture of a worship band and included some text which I felt wasn't NPOV. Sidefall (talk) 04:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I've also reverted a couple more edits by a (different) unregistered user that replaced the worship band picture with one of a methodist communion service. I have nothing against methodist communions, but the photo wasn't vastly different to others in this article and didn't really suggest anything readily identifiable as worship in the 21st century. Whether you approve or not, the most notable aspect of worship in recent years has been the widespread shift to contemporary music and worship bands, which is why I feel that this photo is most relevant. (I would prefer one of a band in a church, but couldn't find one). Would appreciate discussion is you feel differently. Sidefall (talk) 07:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Introduction
[edit]Does anyone else thing the introduction to this article is almost meaningless? I'm not even sure if it's proper english; I'm not a theologian, but I thought at least the first few paragraphs of an article should be comprehensible to lay-people!!!
review needed
[edit]Hi folks, as I just work at the :de version de:Lobpreis und Anbetung, I see that several informations given in this article are simply incorrect. Especially the first three chapters just do not come to the point of genuine worship, but seem to confuse "worship" with "prayer", "Liturgy" end even "eucharisty" (all topics have to do with "worship", but in scietific theological literature it is exactly pointed out in what way, and such literature is not listed at the "references"). Theologically the nearest topic is Doxology, but even this article does not contain the Old/New Testament worship prayers (Mt 6,13; Lk 2,14; Apc 4,11.19.1) which are the biblical main reference to this topic. Unfortunately my English is just too bad that I could manage a review here, but it should be done definitely. --(de):Athanasian (talk) 19:54, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
- I just learned, according to theological literature, that "worship" does not only mean "Doxology", but almost everything that happens in service except preaching. So indeed it seems to be a synonyme to "liturgy". Is that correct? Then we have the interwiki problem that the usual german translation to "worship" does not mean exactly the same... --(de):Athanasian (talk) 19:44, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
reviewed, a low quality item in fact
[edit]Yes, I agree, this article is in need of a 50% rewrite at least. There are just too many problems. And the modern musical worship seems to be wagging the article. History2007 (talk) 22:34, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Issue with redirecting "Worship Leader"
[edit]I don't understand why Worship leader was redirected to Contemporary worship. "Worship leader" is a term still in wide use in mainline Protestant worship (at least in the United States) for the person who reads prayers and scripture. Now many Evangelical churches use "worship leader" for the head musician, but it's not the only meaning. Conflating "Worship leader" with "Contemporary worship" shows favoritism to one group over others and seems biased. --Tpoling (talk) 05:35, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Good point. On Contemporary worship there is a section for Worship leader. It can be expanded to include other viewpoints -- and if it gets big enough, it could be split off into its own article. --Musdan77 (talk) 05:01, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Why is the Greek word for worship used for others than Jesus and God?
[edit]Why is the Greek word for worship used for others than Jesus and God in Revelations 3:9 and Joseph in the Septuagint? Translating proskeneu as worship for Jesus and bowing down for others, imposes a theological bias of particular translators which should be kept free of on this type of forum. Moreover, the article fails to mention any other words used for worship in the Greek because the only word used for worship (in regards to Jesus) in the Greek is proskeneu. If others do exist, then please provide references. DocMando (talk) 01:37, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Nolige
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