Talk:Chuck Baldwin presidential campaign, 2008/Archive 1

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Baldwin's campaign efforts go back to at least July 2004.[1] Even so, I found only one news article on the topic.[2] The rest are all press releases. [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. Since the topic of this article is the campaign, this article should be focused on the campaign itself, not on Baldwin. Also, youtube, blogs, myspace profiles, etc. are not the kind of sources meant to be used as sources in a Wikipedia article. Please consider basing the article structure on other presidential campaign, many of which you can find here. -- Bebestbe (talk) 01:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Racism?

Is Chuck Baldwin a white supremacist sympathizer? According to this article, [8], he is a member of the League of the South, which doesn't prove anything on its own, but when you combine that with his frequent contributions to VDARE, the fact that he accepted Jerome Corsi's endorsement, and his previous appearance on The Political Cesspool radio show, Chuck Baldwin starts looking rather "suspicious". I'm not going to add anything to the article yet, but if anyone has a source that either proves or disproves that Baldwin is a racist, that'd be nice. Stonemason89 (talk) 19:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Racist David Horowitz interview

I found a transcript of Baldwin interviewing David Horowitz [9] and I must say I'm quite stunned with how viciously Horowitz was attacking the black community. Baldwin himself wasn't saying anything racist, but he appeared to agree with what Horowitz was saying.

I think that should be mentioned either in this article or in the main Chuck Baldwin page. I mean, if Baldwin can nod his head and agree with David Horowitz when he begins talking like a Klansman, I think voters need to know that. I know a few (non-racist, libertarian-leaning) people who like Baldwin just because Ron Paul recommended him, but they aren't aware that Baldwin is not a colorblind libertarian; he's a racist theocrat! People need to know these kinds of things before they cast their votes. I've already mentioned on the Bob Barr Presidential Campaign talk page that I was quite impressed with how Bob Barr refused an endorsement and a donation from white-supremacists at Stormfront. Baldwin, it seems, is cut from quite a different cloth, and I think voters in the US need to know this. I'm just unsure of how to incorporate that into his article. Any help would be appreciated. Stonemason89 (talk) 00:48, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Strange...

Why is the [Endorsement] section empty?

Didn't Dr. Ron Paul recently endorse Charles Baldwin's presidential campaign? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.157.225 (talk) 19:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

How Baldwin appears on the Virginia ballot...

Chuck Baldwin appears on the Virginia ballot not as the Constitution Party nominee, but as the nominee of the "Independent Green Party", which is (obviously?) not affiliated with the Green Party.[10] --Heath 24.127.115.128 (talk) 00:37, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Is the Virginian "Independent Green Party" associated with the Constitution Party on the national level?

Endorsements

Why are the endorsements hidden? The list is not long enough that it would clog the page up if they were not hidden. Would anyone object if I did away with the navbox? --Andrew Kelly (talk) 05:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes. It is a standard.--William Saturn (talk) 16:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

All right, I won't change it then. It’s just that it makes it harder for folks to see legitimate information. Hiding it does not seem to serve any aesthetic purpose, but I won’t push the point any longer. --Andrew Kelly (talk) 06:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

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This is a generally excellent article, but it has a few issues which I'd like cleared up before passing it.

Firstly, there's a couple of things here which I'm not quite clear about:

• "Baldwin announced that he would use the Internet as Ron Paul "to circumvent the media," which he deemed responsible for holding back the possible prospects of third party candidates." - Is there a typo here? This doesn't quite make sense.
• "On June 6, the media reported that internal conflict had erupted inside the campaign stemming from a comment made by campaign manager Anita Andrews that the campaign was uniquely Baldwin's and not Ron Paul's. It was later revealed that only one campaign member was disgruntled, Ron Paul grassroots organizer Tyler Simms. Sources from within the campaign stated that Andrews had commented that the campaign needed to focus on former Mike Huckabee and Fred Thompson supporters along with Paul supporters. [14] This came as sources from inside the campaign revealed that the anonymous "Ron Paul billionaire" had joined the campaign and was willing to give $2 to $3 million. The existence of a "Ron Paul billionaire" was questioned." - This sounds very interesting, but to an outsider it's really not very clear what's happening here - this paragraph really needs a rewrite.

Secondly, I'm a little bit concerned about some of the sourcing here. There's a number of links to a Blogspot blog, and a number of other sources that seem somewhat fringeish. I realise this is somewhat unavoidable considering the nature of the subject, but it's stretching into problematic territory. Rebecca (talk) 11:30, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I clarified the two paragraphs above. As for the sourcing, the only reference to blogspot is [11], however, I have found this particular page to be reliable for its interviews with multiple candidates (some by radio), none of which have been contested by the candidates. In fact, the generally well-written article on Jerome Corsi, includes a reference to the site. Since it is in his own words, the blog should be acceptable as a reliable source. --William S. Saturn (talk) 19:49, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. Passing it now. Rebecca (talk) 04:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate the review. Thank you very much. --William S. Saturn (talk) 04:30, 11 January 2010 (UTC)