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Removed incoherent sentence under Society

I removed: "Society, in a finer sense, and then the greater aspect of society which also deals in business, both have stayed communal in Cincinnati compared to metropolises along the United States coasts." That is poorly worded opinion at best and feels simply incoherent. If someone understands it and wants to reword and cite it please feel free.

I also removed a claim about it being a "national city" and a great city of the north south east and west as those aren't really factual or cited. PantsB (talk) 16:30, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Good call on both. There was someone adding all kinds of flowery nonsense to this article a year or two ago, I thought it had all been reverted but this sounds like their work. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:37, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Townships

So, as I read the laws about local government in Ohio, incorporated places (cities and villages) overlay townships. However, in urban areas, when these places eventually incorporate all territory of a township its government ceases to exist and these townships become paper townships. This is what happened to Mill Creek Township, which was eventually incorporated into Cincy, St. Bernard, and Elmwood Place in by the 1950's.

However, another form of a paper township is when an incorporated place does not fully absorb the full territory of its township(s). Instead, the city or village legally withdraws from its township(s) creating a paper township so that whenever the city or village annexes additional land, it's simultaneously annexed into the paper township. Is this correct?

Anyway, Census maps (page 19) show Cincy as an incorporated city independent of its surrounding townships as marked by the "0". What I'm curious about, then, is when Cincy created its paper township and what is its name? I guess I'm confused about is that Cincy would have seemed to have had both kinds of paper townships, most of the city being in the defunct Mill Creek Township. But then what of the townships outside of Millcreek that Cincy annexed into? --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:11, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I'm now seeing that a paper township cannot receive territory from an adjoing township. So the creation of a paper township really only fulfills its purpose if a city doesn't expect to annex additional land in the future. In any case, I'm still curious as to when Cincy withdrew from its townships, what the name of the paper township is? For it to be independent of its townships means that it hasn't annexed any additional land since it withdrew from its townships. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:30, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Area Codes 937, 326

Cincinnati is not in either of the above area codes. Please see Area codes 937 and 326. Before reverting, you can look for WP:RS that says Cincinnati is in one or both of those area codes, but I seriously doubt you are going to find it. Keep in mind that Greater Cincinnati does not equal Cincinnati.

no1lakersfan FYI. You had added 326 here earlier this year, after another IP editor incorrectly added 937 in December 2018. I am amazed no other Cincinnatian has seen this mistake until an IP editor fixed it five days ago, and some other IP editor mistakenly reverted it back. I have removed it. Hope this is solved once and for all. --David Tornheim (talk) 17:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Every editor involved in this has been notified. --David Tornheim (talk) 17:12, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

nicknames again

I was basically talking to myself last time,hoping to get a little bit more input this go round. An IP user has twice added "San Diego of the Midwest" to the list of nicknames in the infobox. I have removed it twice. I was able to come up with this [1] an extremely brief article in CityBeat that makes it clear this is a realtor's marketing idea. I don't think that is enough to add it to the infobox but would like to solicit further opinions so a consensus can be reached. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:19, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Rapid Transit? Commuter Rail? I’m dubious

The article suggest the Cardinal, a “thrice weekly” run ranging from NYC to Chicago is the “commuter rail”. It also suggest that the Cincinnati Bell Connector is ”rapid transit”, despite that it serves the downtown area only, and being a street car can’t really go particularly fast.

These designations are grandiose at best, and potentially misleading. They ought to be relabeled. I’d suggest calling the cardinal “regional rail service”, and simply including the connector under local mass transit. HacksawPC (talk) 01:16, 27 October 2021 (UTC)